[simpits-tech] New file uploaded to Simpits by Ben JONES.

[Bob Reed]

If you watch the video and look at the background out of the canopy, you can
clearly see the aircraft is falling out of the sky.

Bob Reed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Brogley" <mikebrogley at ieee.org>
To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] New file uploaded to Simpits by Ben JONES.


> The accident report says the pilot applied max aft stick pressure from
> the top of the loop until he punched out, which had the flight control
> system "max perform" the F-16 at 2.5g, 24° AOA (I believe the F-16 FCS
> has a hard AOA limit). When he puched out, the airplane was "140 feet
> AGL with a descent rate of 8400 fpm and a speed of 228 KCAS" (knots
> calibrated air speed); 0.8 seconds later the F-16 impacted with "a 1.4
> degree nose up attitude", but still descending at 8400 feet per minute.
>
> The photo matches this exectly - slight nose high attitude, but still
> descending. If you sum the angles, it was still headed downhill at just
> about a 22° angle when the photo was taken, even though the nose was
> slightly above the horizon.
>
> --
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> Jim Sturcbecher wrote:
>
> > If you look carefully at the engine exhaust trail, it looks like he
> > is just coming out of the bottom of a loop but the airframe is still
> > progressing downwards almost flat, even though the attitude
> > looks correct. At least it appears he is going away from the crowd
> > thankfully.
> >
> > My 2 (euro)cents anyway.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> > At 02/02/04 23:22, you wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, I was looking at the aircraft pitch, to, but that doesn't mean
> >> it was
> >> headed that way.  You can have a high angle of attack, but still be
> >> driving
> >> into the ground.
> >>
> >> Marv
> >>
> >> On 2/2/04 1:14 PM, "TurboTas" <turbotas at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> >> A new file has been uploaded to the simpits.org
> >> > website!
> >> >>
> >> >> Filename: f16bangout.jpg.
> >> > Uploaded by: Ben JONES.
> >> >> Type / Subject: Other / F-16 Viper.
> >> >>
> >> >> Description:  A Pic of a F16 viver bangout,
> >> > interesting but i dont know if its a modified pic
> >> >
> >> > Impressive piccy, but I think it's fake.  I'm a
> >> > complete fool where such matters are concerned etc,
> >> > but the aircraft seems to be travelling forward, have
> >> > (a bit) of altitude, be climbing slightly and have
> >> > both engines running.  It's also straight and level
> >> > even though (clearly!) the pilots hands are no longer
> >> > on the controls.  Why on earth would anyone want to
> >> > leave the plane ;-)
> >> >
> >> > Do you chaps know something about the F16 that I don't
> >> > (actually, probably lots).
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps I'm just stimulating debate.  What do you guys
> >> > think?
> >> >
> >> > First successful post from me: Tell me if it's OT ;-)
> >> > Fresh face to this list in the last week: I'm trying a
> >> > Generic build styled after Mssr Coates excellent
> >> > X-Plane.info pit.  Only a week in and already my
> >> > computer room resembles a carpentry shop.
> >> >
> >> > Tell me what you think: see the link below and hunt
> >> > around a bit ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Toby Seaman
> >> > www.turbotas.co.uk
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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