[simpits-tech] F4 SP4 stop order

[francisco at picornell.net]

Without the user group participation in actively developing the product
with the enhancements we want, we would have NEVER seen Falcon 4 come as
far as it has because it would not have made economical sense. They could
have NEVER paid for all the time and effort the user groups put into making
Falcon what is it now. I do not know the whole situation but the best solution
is in the middle ground. Falcon 4 and the user group participation is a
success story and to be known as the group that crushed it all may yeild
short term benifits for them but trust me when I say, for the true Falcon
fan who "wants it all". it will never be as good as it was the last couple
of years.

I hope then can work it out. Lastly, for me its not about it being free
(I can afford to pay for it) its about recognizing the effort many have
put into falcon making what it is today. 


>-- Original Message --
>From: "Steve Wilson" <mafsix at gci-net.com>
>To: <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>Subject: [simpits-tech] F4 SP4 stop order
>Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:28:21 -0700
>Reply-To: Simulator Cockpit tech list <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>
>
>Interesting reading indeed, Jim.  Thanks!
>
>http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=09fcaca8eec5af04a138211f
>fe3bbb94&threadid=50109
>
>Well, it does figure that at some point the lifeguard was going to tell
>everyone to
>get out of the pool.  Nobody likes the lifeguard when that happens.
>
>Cavanaugh obviously is as gracious and tactful as a heart attack, but then
>again,
>if he and the folks he represents are to maintain control of their product,
>and if
>OIR and Falcon V are to remain viable, at some point they have to say
>"when."
>
>And OIR is going to be released next month.  Wheeee!
>
>Seriously, we want someone to stay in business producing better and better
>Falcons.
>The UT and other folk were magnificent.  Legendary.  Heroic.  But when
a
>for-profit
>concern does the developing, they open wide the scope of possible
>development, and
>they also make mods that bring the software core itself up to date, so
as
>to
>take advantage
>of the latest state of the art on the hardware side of things.  And only
>a
>for-profit concern
>can truly advance the existence of a title over the long haul, since they
>centralize things.
>
>Did the community as a whole get scrod?  Nope.  We got three major,
>incredible freeware
>upgrades to a thoroughly dated product, ones which took the sim far beyond
>it's original level
>of quality.  Is there gratitude on the part of the owners of the code for
>this?  Nope.  And that is
>the shame of it all.  Did the developers get scrod?  Sure.  They worked
for
>free, and their efforts
>were, in the end, stomped on.  A lot of feelings got hurt there!   And
as
>a
>guy that has a lot of his
>own creative juices, I feel for them that they weren't able to get SP4
>finished to the state they wanted.
>However, their own inefficiencly allowed SP4 to languish for many, many
>months.  I've been
>checking the UT site frequently for many, many moons with barely a news
>article, and no download
>in sight.  Now it's time for G2I, et al, to start making some money off
the
>Falcon title, and that means
>that, one way or another, any potential conflicts *must* be eliminated.
>It's harsh, but it's part of business
>survival in a very narrowly defined market.
>
>Ultimately, on reading the entire thread, it appears there is reasonable
>hope that the data edits in SP4
>will be made available at some point.  Either G2I will do it as a freebie
>if
>their demands are met.  Or,
>perhaps we'll see a return to the methods of eRazor and the release will
>happen clandestinely
>overseas.  JMHO.
>
>Sure would love to see this surface on CNN, though.  <evil grin>
>
>Steve
>
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