[simpits-tech] F4 SP4 stop order-language warning

[shizznit at ihug.com.au]

The dumb moron is too lazy to fucken register an account to post up the
message himself at Frugal.

I cant be bother reading all the reaction after seeing the initial post. To
me, that first post was more of a threat than a statement to the community.

If you consider the lack of organisation or management in the F4UT which
ultimately caused the delay with SP4. Then I will tell ya I have no one to
blame but the guy himself inside G2i.

For crying out loud, he wouldnt even make a post in the F4UT group to
announce that piece of IMHO "Critical information" to all the betatesters
and developers. There havent been any involvement what so ever from G2i
inside the F4UT environment for as long as I can remember... since SP2 days.
If G2i is the centralcommand then they certain keep all of the grunts in the
field lost as to what and where our time spending on making the game better
was leading to. Thankful, I would like to say Chris Carter and several other
guys kept the momentum forward as much as they can with a simple objective
and that is "Get SP4 out to the public" then worry about how it works with
BSM, FF etc etc etc.

If it wasnt for someone who picked up that post on Frugal and then linked it
up into the betatester group. Guys will have to find out themselves from
forums. You would think the UT/G2i relationship should be one that is more
interactive and mutually respected.

G2i, you need to go and get a degree in management and diplomacy. Actually
on second thought, dont worry about it. I wish you luck on your future
release, the community will not forget what you've done to them. IDGAS (I
Dont Give A S...) what OIR looks like. Without the community support, you
wouldnt have gotten this far. I dont care if you are the IP owner of Falcon.

G2i Probably left the whole development community in uncertainty so we can
fight within ourselves. So you saw all the splite with FF and UT now with
BSM. They bring out OIR at this very moment so it can be the "Savour" and
the future of falcon.

I put all my falcon mod work on hold since last Friday to wait for the dust
to settle inspired by the state of affair. Then this friday the bombshell
drops. I dont even know if I can bother anymore.

Bugger it, I am going to build my pit and stop wasting my time sitting
infront of the 21st century idiot box.

I sincerely apologise to every friends I have on this group for my outburst
but will be absolutely delighted if any G2i member read this with their own
naked eyes.

Cheers,

Al
Sydney, Oz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Wilson" <mafsix at gci-net.com>
To: <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 3:28 PM
Subject: [simpits-tech] F4 SP4 stop order


> Interesting reading indeed, Jim.  Thanks!
>
>
http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=09fcaca8eec5af04a138211f
> fe3bbb94&threadid=50109
>
> Well, it does figure that at some point the lifeguard was going to tell
> everyone to
> get out of the pool.  Nobody likes the lifeguard when that happens.
>
> Cavanaugh obviously is as gracious and tactful as a heart attack, but then
> again,
> if he and the folks he represents are to maintain control of their
product,
> and if
> OIR and Falcon V are to remain viable, at some point they have to say
> "when."
>
> And OIR is going to be released next month.  Wheeee!
>
> Seriously, we want someone to stay in business producing better and better
> Falcons.
> The UT and other folk were magnificent.  Legendary.  Heroic.  But when a
> for-profit
> concern does the developing, they open wide the scope of possible
> development, and
> they also make mods that bring the software core itself up to date, so as
to
> take advantage
> of the latest state of the art on the hardware side of things.  And only a
> for-profit concern
> can truly advance the existence of a title over the long haul, since they
> centralize things.
>
> Did the community as a whole get scrod?  Nope.  We got three major,
> incredible freeware
> upgrades to a thoroughly dated product, ones which took the sim far beyond
> it's original level
> of quality.  Is there gratitude on the part of the owners of the code for
> this?  Nope.  And that is
> the shame of it all.  Did the developers get scrod?  Sure.  They worked
for
> free, and their efforts
> were, in the end, stomped on.  A lot of feelings got hurt there!   And as
a
> guy that has a lot of his
> own creative juices, I feel for them that they weren't able to get SP4
> finished to the state they wanted.
> However, their own inefficiencly allowed SP4 to languish for many, many
> months.  I've been
> checking the UT site frequently for many, many moons with barely a news
> article, and no download
> in sight.  Now it's time for G2I, et al, to start making some money off
the
> Falcon title, and that means
> that, one way or another, any potential conflicts *must* be eliminated.
> It's harsh, but it's part of business
> survival in a very narrowly defined market.
>
> Ultimately, on reading the entire thread, it appears there is reasonable
> hope that the data edits in SP4
> will be made available at some point.  Either G2I will do it as a freebie
if
> their demands are met.  Or,
> perhaps we'll see a return to the methods of eRazor and the release will
> happen clandestinely
> overseas.  JMHO.
>
> Sure would love to see this surface on CNN, though.  <evil grin>
>
> Steve
>
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