[simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment

Ben Jones simpits-tech@simpits.org
Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:28:17 +0800


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Mark ,

 with your seat...

 cessna seats slide forward and back on two I beam rails,  with holes on =
the top surface for two  location pin from  the seat to drop into on =
both rails,
try a aviation scrap yard for these , if not i have  a set of seat =
rails(in my old mans hanger) i could take some measurements for you and =
some pics.
this sounds like a similar principle to me ..

regards

ben jones
bjones@pipecomp.com.au


----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mark Collins=20
  To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:49 PM
  Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment


  Hey Ed...
  I have a similar problem.  My seat is an actual Eurcopter seat for a =
helicopter.  This is in my helo pit.  It is designed to slide fore and =
aft on some type of rail system.  It looks like it should take some type =
of I-Beam.  I have not been able to find anything for this.  I'll be =
stopping by my local "Pep Boys" auto parts store to see what they have.  =
A friend was going to try and get some folks at work to fabricate =
something for me...but they are to busy.  I'll let you know what I find!

  Mark
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[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Ed Henderson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:53 AM
    To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
    Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment


    All right...  I give in.  I guess I am just a pessimist when it =
comes to my construction...  trying to save the wear and tear on my ACES =
II.  I used the ACES plans from simpits using osb (before I knew the joy =
of working with mdf) and hardboard, I am sure it will hold up.  The seat =
adjustment was also so that I could attach the seat to the floor and if =
the position was not exactly right a month down the road it could easily =
be repositioned.  I feel that it needs to be secured to the floor cause =
it is a little aft top heavy and I know that my 10 year old will be =
using the headrest for a handle to get in and out.

    BTW :-)  before anybody hits me with "the F/A-18 doesn't use the =
ACES II" I could not find any plans for the NACES, and I was too =
impatient to design it myself.  I will however be starting on a NACES =
replica when the cockpit is finished. =20

    Ed

    Keenan Akin wrote:

      Ed,

      Why are you concerned about stepping on the seat?  That's how =
everyone I know gets in and out of an F/A-18.  Holding the windshield =
bow, right foot on the seat, left foot on the floor, right foot on the =
floor, sit down.

      Keenan
      `

      Ed Henderson wrote:

        Yea I know, but I am trying to avoid stepping in and out on the =
seat so I wanted to have about 8 inches in front of the seat to step in =
and then slide forward.  I was planning on a pedal adjustment as well, =
but I have not thought about how to do that yet.

        Gene Buckle wrote:

Ejection seats don't adjust like that Ed. :)  You need to adjust the
pedals instead.  The only adjustment the seat can make is up-down with
about a 5 or 6 inch range.

g.


On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Ed Henderson wrote:

  Anybody have fore / aft seat adjustment ideas.  I was thinking about
drawer slides but they will not take the weight.  Second option is 4
casters in an aluminum trough and some type of locking mechanism...

Ed


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mark ,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;with your seat...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;cessna seats slide forward and back on =
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for you and some pics.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>this sounds like a similar principle to me =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>regards</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>ben jones</FONT></DIV>
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  Ed...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D780384615-11032003><FONT face=3DArial =
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  have a similar problem.&nbsp; My seat is an actual Eurcopter seat for =
a=20
  helicopter.&nbsp; This is in my helo pit.&nbsp; It is designed to =
slide fore=20
  and aft on some type of rail system.&nbsp; It looks like it should =
take some=20
  type of I-Beam.&nbsp; I have not been able to find anything for =
this.&nbsp;=20
  I'll be stopping by my local "Pep Boys" auto parts store to see what =
they=20
  have.&nbsp; A friend was going to try and get some folks at work to =
fabricate=20
  something for me...but they are to busy.&nbsp; I'll let you know what =
I=20
  find!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D780384615-11032003><FONT face=3DArial =
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    AM<BR><B>To:</B> simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
    [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>All right... =
&nbsp;I give=20
    in. &nbsp;I guess I am just a pessimist when it comes to my =
construction...=20
    &nbsp;trying to save the wear and tear on my ACES II. &nbsp;I used =
the ACES=20
    plans from simpits using osb (before I knew the joy of working with =
mdf) and=20
    hardboard, I am sure it will hold up. &nbsp;The seat adjustment was =
also so=20
    that I could attach the seat to the floor and if the position was =
not=20
    exactly right a month down the road it could easily be repositioned. =
&nbsp;I=20
    feel that it needs to be secured to the floor cause it is a little =
aft top=20
    heavy and I know that my 10 year old will be using the headrest for =
a handle=20
    to get in and out.<BR><BR>BTW <SPAN class=3Dmoz-smiley-s1><SPAN>:-)=20
    </SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;before anybody hits me with "the F/A-18 doesn't =
use the=20
    ACES II" I could not find any plans for the NACES, and I was too =
impatient=20
    to design it myself. &nbsp;I will however be starting on a NACES =
replica=20
    when the cockpit is finished. &nbsp;<BR><BR>Ed<BR><BR>Keenan Akin =
wrote:<BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid3E6D4B7A.3040806@yhti.net =
type=3D"cite">Ed,<BR><BR>Why=20
      are you concerned about stepping on the seat? &nbsp;That's how =
everyone I=20
      know gets in and out of an F/A-18. &nbsp;Holding the windshield =
bow, right=20
      foot on the seat, left foot on the floor, right foot on the floor, =
sit=20
      down.<BR><BR>Keenan<BR>`<BR><BR>Ed Henderson wrote:<BR>
      <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:3E6D2882.1020200@comcast.net =
type=3D"cite">Yea I=20
        know, but I am trying to avoid stepping in and out on the seat =
so I=20
        wanted to have about 8 inches in front of the seat to step in =
and then=20
        slide forward. &nbsp;I was planning on a pedal adjustment as =
well, but I=20
        have not thought about how to do that yet.<BR><BR>Gene Buckle =
wrote:<BR>
        <BLOCKQUOTE=20
        =
cite=3DmidPine.BSF.4.44.0303100709420.46693-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com =

        type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Ejection seats don't adjust like =
that Ed. :)  You need to adjust the
pedals instead.  The only adjustment the seat can make is up-down with
about a 5 or 6 inch range.

g.


On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Ed Henderson wrote:

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          <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Anybody have fore / =
aft seat adjustment ideas.  I was thinking about
drawer slides but they will not take the weight.  Second option is 4
casters in an aluminum trough and some type of locking mechanism...

Ed


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