[simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment

Mark Collins simpits-tech@simpits.org
Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:09:11 -0600


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Ben,
That is exactly what I need.  I'm in Chicago and unfortunately, while we
have lots of great Gen Av radio traffic, we have no cool military or
aviation junkyards that I know of.  I'll ask around and see what I can find,
but I'll likely be contacting you for the rails.

Thanks for the help.

Mark
  -----Original Message-----
  From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Ben Jones
  Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:28 PM
  To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
  Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment


  Mark ,

   with your seat...

   cessna seats slide forward and back on two I beam rails,  with holes on
the top surface for two  location pin from  the seat to drop into on both
rails,
  try a aviation scrap yard for these , if not i have  a set of seat
rails(in my old mans hanger) i could take some measurements for you and some
pics.
  this sounds like a similar principle to me ..

  regards

  ben jones
  bjones@pipecomp.com.au


  ----- Original Message -----
    From: Mark Collins
    To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
    Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:49 PM
    Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment


    Hey Ed...
    I have a similar problem.  My seat is an actual Eurcopter seat for a
helicopter.  This is in my helo pit.  It is designed to slide fore and aft
on some type of rail system.  It looks like it should take some type of
I-Beam.  I have not been able to find anything for this.  I'll be stopping
by my local "Pep Boys" auto parts store to see what they have.  A friend was
going to try and get some folks at work to fabricate something for me...but
they are to busy.  I'll let you know what I find!

    Mark
      -----Original Message-----
      From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Ed Henderson
      Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:53 AM
      To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
      Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment


      All right...  I give in.  I guess I am just a pessimist when it comes
to my construction...  trying to save the wear and tear on my ACES II.  I
used the ACES plans from simpits using osb (before I knew the joy of working
with mdf) and hardboard, I am sure it will hold up.  The seat adjustment was
also so that I could attach the seat to the floor and if the position was
not exactly right a month down the road it could easily be repositioned.  I
feel that it needs to be secured to the floor cause it is a little aft top
heavy and I know that my 10 year old will be using the headrest for a handle
to get in and out.

      BTW :-)  before anybody hits me with "the F/A-18 doesn't use the ACES
II" I could not find any plans for the NACES, and I was too impatient to
design it myself.  I will however be starting on a NACES replica when the
cockpit is finished.

      Ed

      Keenan Akin wrote:

        Ed,

        Why are you concerned about stepping on the seat?  That's how
everyone I know gets in and out of an F/A-18.  Holding the windshield bow,
right foot on the seat, left foot on the floor, right foot on the floor, sit
down.

        Keenan
        `

        Ed Henderson wrote:

          Yea I know, but I am trying to avoid stepping in and out on the
seat so I wanted to have about 8 inches in front of the seat to step in and
then slide forward.  I was planning on a pedal adjustment as well, but I
have not thought about how to do that yet.

          Gene Buckle wrote:

Ejection seats don't adjust like that Ed. :)  You need to adjust the
pedals instead.  The only adjustment the seat can make is up-down with
about a 5 or 6 inch range.

g.


On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Ed Henderson wrote:

  Anybody have fore / aft seat adjustment ideas.  I was thinking about
drawer slides but they will not take the weight.  Second option is 4
casters in an aluminum trough and some type of locking mechanism...

Ed


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  Behalf Of </B>Ben Jones<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:28=20
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  [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mark ,</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;with your seat...</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;cessna seats slide forward and back on =
two&nbsp;I beam=20
  rails,&nbsp; with holes on the top surface for&nbsp;two &nbsp;location =
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  from&nbsp; the seat to drop into on both rails,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>try a aviation scrap yard for these&nbsp;, if not =
i=20
  have&nbsp; a set of seat rails(in my old mans hanger)&nbsp;i could =
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  measurements for you and some pics.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>this sounds like a similar principle to me =
..</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>regards</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>ben jones</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><SPAN class=3D780384615-11032003><FONT face=3DArial =
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    size=3D2>Hey Ed...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D780384615-11032003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
    have a similar problem.&nbsp; My seat is an actual Eurcopter seat =
for a=20
    helicopter.&nbsp; This is in my helo pit.&nbsp; It is designed to =
slide fore=20
    and aft on some type of rail system.&nbsp; It looks like it should =
take some=20
    type of I-Beam.&nbsp; I have not been able to find anything for =
this.&nbsp;=20
    I'll be stopping by my local "Pep Boys" auto parts store to see what =
they=20
    have.&nbsp; A friend was going to try and get some folks at work to=20
    fabricate something for me...but they are to busy.&nbsp; I'll let =
you know=20
    what I find!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D780384615-11032003><FONT face=3DArial =
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      [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed=20
      Henderson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:53 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
      simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [simpits-tech] =
Seat=20
      Adjustment<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>All right... &nbsp;I give in. =
&nbsp;I guess=20
      I am just a pessimist when it comes to my construction... =
&nbsp;trying to=20
      save the wear and tear on my ACES II. &nbsp;I used the ACES plans =
from=20
      simpits using osb (before I knew the joy of working with mdf) and=20
      hardboard, I am sure it will hold up. &nbsp;The seat adjustment =
was also=20
      so that I could attach the seat to the floor and if the position =
was not=20
      exactly right a month down the road it could easily be =
repositioned.=20
      &nbsp;I feel that it needs to be secured to the floor cause it is =
a little=20
      aft top heavy and I know that my 10 year old will be using the =
headrest=20
      for a handle to get in and out.<BR><BR>BTW <SPAN=20
      class=3Dmoz-smiley-s1><SPAN>:-) </SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;before anybody =
hits me=20
      with "the F/A-18 doesn't use the ACES II" I could not find any =
plans for=20
      the NACES, and I was too impatient to design it myself. &nbsp;I =
will=20
      however be starting on a NACES replica when the cockpit is =
finished.=20
      &nbsp;<BR><BR>Ed<BR><BR>Keenan Akin wrote:<BR>
      <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid3E6D4B7A.3040806@yhti.net =
type=3D"cite">Ed,<BR><BR>Why=20
        are you concerned about stepping on the seat? &nbsp;That's how =
everyone=20
        I know gets in and out of an F/A-18. &nbsp;Holding the =
windshield bow,=20
        right foot on the seat, left foot on the floor, right foot on =
the floor,=20
        sit down.<BR><BR>Keenan<BR>`<BR><BR>Ed Henderson wrote:<BR>
        <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:3E6D2882.1020200@comcast.net =
type=3D"cite">Yea I=20
          know, but I am trying to avoid stepping in and out on the seat =
so I=20
          wanted to have about 8 inches in front of the seat to step in =
and then=20
          slide forward. &nbsp;I was planning on a pedal adjustment as =
well, but=20
          I have not thought about how to do that yet.<BR><BR>Gene =
Buckle=20
          wrote:<BR>
          <BLOCKQUOTE=20
          =
cite=3DmidPine.BSF.4.44.0303100709420.46693-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com =

          type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Ejection seats don't adjust like =
that Ed. :)  You need to adjust the
pedals instead.  The only adjustment the seat can make is up-down with
about a 5 or 6 inch range.

g.


On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Ed Henderson wrote:

  </PRE>
            <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Anybody have fore / =
aft seat adjustment ideas.  I was thinking about
drawer slides but they will not take the weight.  Second option is 4
casters in an aluminum trough and some type of locking mechanism...

Ed


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