[simpits-tech] The Cougar Has landed - Mating Season
Steve Wilson
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:55:31 -0400
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<div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2>Is there a sane way, when=
operating an EPIC on a second independant PC, to transfer rotary=
input data to the PC on which one runs one's flight sim? ( I=
have an ISA EPIC, and I'm pretty sure my ultimate sim PC will=
not have an ISA slot).</FONT><br></div>
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<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2></FONT><div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"=
SIZE=3D2>Will the output of the force transducers be as precise as=
a Cougar if used on a soundcard gameport?</FONT><br></div>
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<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2></FONT><div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"=
SIZE=3D2>Considering how easy it is to unplug the pots on the=
Cougar, it sure would be simple swap out if the transducers=
could be electronically adapted.</FONT><br></div>
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<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2></FONT><div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"=
SIZE=3D2>Hehe, I've taken my Cougar apart too!! =
;-)</FONT><br></div>
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SIZE=3D2>Steve</FONT><br>
<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2>--
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Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/16/2002
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On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:47:33 -0400, Marv De Beque wrote:<br>
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<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: I stole a quick look inside the=
grip. There is good news and</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: bad news:</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: First the Bad News:</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: The screw on gray collar must=
go. In fact, so too, the shaft</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: that it</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: attaches to on the grip side.=
The screw on collar is too big</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: for a real</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: base. Also, the mounting=
angle is wrong. The Cougar sits</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: strait up off its</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: mount. The real grip=
leans forward 13 degrees.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: I will need to make a coupler=
that adapts the Cougar grip to</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: my base and</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: corrects the mounting angle.=
This will add a little to the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: price of the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: base, but not much.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: The user will need to open his=
grip to make the mod (4</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: screws). Once=
made,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: it will not fit the original=
base unless you remove my adapter</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: and reinstall</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: the original parts. At=
least it is not a permanent mod.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Some Good News:</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: I can make an adapter that is=
easy for the user to install.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Fortunately,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Thrustmaster used a tiny plug=
and socket on the inside PC</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Board for the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: wires, so you can unplug their=
mount and plug mine in. That</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: means no</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: soldering required! There=
is one screw you need to unscrew</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: inside the grip.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: It is easy, even for the=
mechanically declined.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Right now it looks like I will=
make an extension cable to plug</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: into the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Cougar base. This will=
allow the user to keep his software</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: the same. I</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: don't know how I will interface=
the output of the force sensor</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: to the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Cougar's base, if at all.=
If I can, it will require a mod to</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: the base. I</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: am steering away from that=
idea. You may need to use the game</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: port or EPIC</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: for the force transducer=
interface.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: All in all, it is good news for=
Cougar owners.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: If you are thinking about a=
Cougar, I wouldn't hesitate to get</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: one.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: For those guys that have the=
real grip and base, hang in</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: there. After=
I</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: finish my stick base, I'll be=
building am interface card that</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: will allow a</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: real F-16 base and grip to work=
with the PC game port or EPIC.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: ;-)</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: Marv</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
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