[simpits-tech] The Cougar Has landed - Mating Season

Steve Wilson simpits-tech@simpits.org
Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:55:31 -0400


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<div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2>Is there a sane way, when=
 operating an EPIC on a second independant PC, to transfer rotary=
 input data to the PC on which one runs one's flight sim? ( I=
 have an ISA EPIC, and I'm pretty sure my ultimate sim PC will=
 not have an ISA slot).</FONT><br></div>
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<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2></FONT><div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"=
 SIZE=3D2>Will the output of the force transducers be as precise as=
 a Cougar if used on a soundcard gameport?</FONT><br></div>
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<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2></FONT><div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"=
 SIZE=3D2>Considering how easy it is to unplug the pots on the=
 Cougar, it sure would be simple swap out if the transducers=
 could be electronically adapted.</FONT><br></div>
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<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2></FONT><div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"=
 SIZE=3D2>Hehe, I've taken my Cougar apart too!!&nbsp;=
 ;-)</FONT><br></div>
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<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2></FONT><div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"=
 SIZE=3D2>Steve</FONT><br>
<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2>--
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 Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/16/2002
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On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:47:33 -0400, Marv De Beque wrote:<br>
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<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; I stole a quick look inside the=
 grip. &nbsp;There is good news and</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; bad news:</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; First the Bad News:</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; The screw on gray collar must=
 go. &nbsp;In fact, so too, the shaft</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; that it</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; attaches to on the grip side.=
 &nbsp;The screw on collar is too big</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; for a real</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; base. &nbsp;Also, the mounting=
 angle is wrong. &nbsp;The Cougar sits</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; strait up off its</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; mount. &nbsp;The real grip=
 leans forward 13 degrees.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; I will need to make a coupler=
 that adapts the Cougar grip to</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; my base and</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; corrects the mounting angle.=
 &nbsp;This will add a little to the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; price of the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; base, but not much.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; The user will need to open his=
 grip to make the mod (4</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; screws). &nbsp;Once=
 made,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; it will not fit the original=
 base unless you remove my adapter</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; and reinstall</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; the original parts. &nbsp;At=
 least it is not a permanent mod.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; Some Good News:</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; I can make an adapter that is=
 easy for the user to install.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; Fortunately,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; Thrustmaster used a tiny plug=
 and socket on the inside PC</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; Board for the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; wires, so you can unplug their=
 mount and plug mine in. &nbsp;That</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; means no</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; soldering required! &nbsp;There=
 is one screw you need to unscrew</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; inside the grip.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; It is easy, even for the=
 mechanically declined.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; Right now it looks like I will=
 make an extension cable to plug</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; into the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; Cougar base. &nbsp;This will=
 allow the user to keep his software</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; the same. &nbsp;I</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; don't know how I will interface=
 the output of the force sensor</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; to the</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; Cougar's base, if at all.=
 &nbsp;If I can, it will require a mod to</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; the base. &nbsp;I</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; am steering away from that=
 idea. &nbsp;You may need to use the game</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; port or EPIC</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; for the force transducer=
 interface.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; All in all, it is good news for=
 Cougar owners.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; If you are thinking about a=
 Cougar, I wouldn't hesitate to get</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; one.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; For those guys that have the=
 real grip and base, hang in</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; there. &nbsp;After=
 I</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; finish my stick base, I'll be=
 building am interface card that</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; will allow a</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; real F-16 base and grip to work=
 with the PC game port or EPIC.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &nbsp;;-)</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; Marv</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp;=
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