[simpits-tech] MARV: Ejection Seat Relocation

[Marv De Beque]

I see.  Looks like I can make some sort of adapter to work with the Cougar.
Unfortunately, Thrustmaster changed the gender of the threads on the grip.
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> From: Steve Wilson <mafsix@attbi.com>
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:15:54 -0400
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] MARV: Ejection Seat Relocation
> 
> If you follow the link that Chris provided, Marv...
> 
> http://cougarpages.f4freeware.net/
> 
> ...you'll see more Cougar guts than you could ever hope to via the web.  And
> by the way, when I speak of the core, I'm talking about the portion of the
> stick that's in the base, not the removeable handgrip.  I've retained that as
> completely original in my rework.
> 
> Steve 
> -- 
> Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/05/2002
> 
> 
> On Sat, 05 Oct 2002 08:57:18 -0400, Marv De Beque wrote:
> ::::
> ::::   Well, I need to see a Cougar, but my hope is to make my base
> ::::   so you simply
> ::::   screw the Cougar grip onto the base, just like a real grip.
> ::::
> ::::   I will also make adapters for real F-16 grips, too.
> ::::
> ::::
> ::::
> ::::   --
> ::::
> ::::
> ::::   > From: Steve Wilson <mafsix@attbi.com>
> ::::   > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> ::::   > Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:56:06 -0400
> ::::   > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> ::::   > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] MARV: Ejection Seat Relocation
> ::::   >
> ::::   > The main Cougar core is cast metal, Marv.  Folks have
> ::::   complained that the
> ::::   > metal used is somewhat soft, since it also forms the
> ::::   bearings for the joystick
> ::::   > gimbal pivots, and they tend to develop minute amounts of
> ::::   "play" over time.
> ::::   > This leads me to believe that the cast core could break if
> ::::   subjected to
> ::::   > repetitive force loads of the RW F-16 variety.  Moving the
> ::::   pivot from the
> ::::   > center of the housing 2" lower into the base should result
> ::::   in approximately
> ::::   > 1/2" tp 1" of play, which will translate to about 3 - 4
> ::::   times that at a
> ::::   > distance of approximately 12 - 15" from the pivot (not to
> ::::   mention a reduced
> ::::   > force load due to the increased lever arm).  This movement
> ::::   could be translated
> ::::   > to a standard joystick gimbal that incorporates the stock
> ::::   Cougar pots,
> ::::   > something I'd really like to do, given their precision and
> ::::   proven interface
> ::::   > with the Coug's electronics.  Once one nips the gimbal
> ::::   pivots off of the
> ::::   > Cougar core, it will slide into 3/4" gas pipe with room to
> ::::   spare.  This forms
> ::::   > the beginning of a new core that extends the afformentioned
> ::::   12 - 15", albeit
> ::::   > stepped down at some point to 1/2" gas pipe, and mounted in
> ::::   a new gimbal
> ::::   > composed of inline skate bearings.  I want "robust" too, but
> ::::   with a degree of
> ::::   > play more closely matched to my superspiffy pedals. ;-)
> ::::   >
> ::::   > Thanks for the detailed info, and the terrific war story.
> ::::   Sounds like the guy
> ::::   > should have put out a line for some good fishing, if he was
> ::::   that close to
> ::::   > scoopin' soup. ;-)
> ::::   >
> ::::   > Steve
> ::::   > --
> ::::   > Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/04/2002
> ::::   >
> ::::   >
> ::::   > On Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:54:58 -0400, Marv De Beque wrote:
> ::::   >
> ::::   > ::::   The flight recorder recorded 100 lbs. of force on the
> ::::   grip as
> ::::   > ::::   he pulled back like a maniac.
> ::::   > ::::   My point is, the F-16 grip is very robust.  As a
> ::::   design goal,
> ::::   > ::::   my stick will easily handle that force, but I don't
> ::::   know how ::::
> ::::   > well a Cougar will take it.
> ::::   >
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