[simpits-tech] to MARV re: RP

Steve Wilson simpits-tech@simpits.org
Wed, 2 Oct 2002 18:24:32 -0400


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<div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2>Lead is toxic.&nbsp; Lead-free=
 pewter is not.&nbsp; Different pewter alloys have different=
 strengths, and the stronger variants can be used for harness=
 buckles and the like.&nbsp; Strong stuff, especially for knobs=
 and small mechanical parts. </FONT><br></div>
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<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2></FONT><div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"=
 SIZE=3D2>What you want to cast with, Marv, is a translucent white=
 epoxy resin that can be painted, then lit from underneath.&nbsp;=
 </FONT><br></div>
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<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2></FONT><div><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"=
 SIZE=3D2>RP would only be good for mold masters.&nbsp; Depending=
 on the quality and the material used, perhaps they'd need a bit=
 of a polish, but then they would need to be cast in=
 resin.</FONT><br>
<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D2>--
<br>
 Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/02/2002
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On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 18:02:52 -0400, Marv De Beque wrote:<br>
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<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; Lead and pewter are things to=
 avoid. &nbsp;Not only are they too</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; soft, they are</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; very toxic=
 materials.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; For the home shop, two-part=
 epoxies are probably the way to go.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; There are a lot of good quality=
 silicon molding rubbers that</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; can be used to</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; make a mold from. &nbsp;That=
 would be my bet.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; As for making RP parts, they=
 are simply not strong enough for</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; real world</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; use.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; Where they shine is for making=
 example parts to check theory</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; or, if high</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; enough quality, as masters for=
 making rubber molds. &nbsp;I think</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; the latter</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; holds some promise. &nbsp;That=
 is where my money is at.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; --</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">::::</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;From: &quot;Jim=
 K.&quot; &lt;JimK@sisna.com&gt;</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Reply-To:=
 simpits-tech@simpits.org</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Date: Wed, 02 Oct=
 2002 13:28:09 -0600</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;To: Simpits=
 &lt;simpits-tech@simpits.org&gt;</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Subject:=
 [simpits-tech] to MARV re: RP</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Marv,</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;The quality of RP=
 prototypes seems to rely on the machine</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; being used and</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;what type of RP is=
 being used. &nbsp;There are several different</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; RP methods and</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;they do produce=
 different results. &nbsp;I think you can change</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; the quality</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;outcome of a part via=
 your drawing and/or the settings in</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; the RP machine</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;itself and the way=
 you make the part is critical as well.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; I.E., you have</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;to choose the correct=
 orientation of the part from which to</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; start. &nbsp;I have</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;some RP parts here=
 and the top final surface that was</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; generated is as</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;smooth as glass but=
 the sides have that &quot;grain&quot; to it. &nbsp;I</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; don't think FDM</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;parts have this grain=
 to it but I'd have to check. &nbsp;I just</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; brought this all</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;up as an=
 option.</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;hmmmmmm, thinking=
 here: &nbsp;What if you made a mold of the part</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; via a CNC</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;machine and then=
 melted lead or some type of plastic into</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; the mold to make</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;your own=
 parts???</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Jim</FONT><br>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080">:::: &nbsp; &gt;</FONT><br>
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