[simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....

Biggles simpits-tech@simpits.org
Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:19:07 +0200 

One of the main difference of the ERTL model are the side panels.
As mentioned before, they are tilted inwards.
Also they have a bend somewhere in the middle of the panel (this gives the
backside a different angle in relation to the ground then the front part).
I found that the ERTL is close to real dimensions on other details.
I am building my pit mixed with real parts and was stunned to find that most
parts fit within milimeters.
Have to mention that i took me hours to get the messurements from the model
and convert them.
Its all about the tolerance you are willing to adopt.

Biggles.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Erwin Neyt" <rwntn@hvv.nl>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....


> Chris,
>
> Beware that the ERTL model is not dimensionally correct. I don't have any
> details but was assured several times there are some major flaws in it.
>
> Erwin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris [mailto:ccrowley@mccrowley.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 11 June, 2002 11:48
> > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
> >
> >
> > I went to the FTP site myself, and other members sites. I
> > also bought an
> > ERTL 1/12 model. Between these 3 sources I was able to get most of the
> > information I needed to begin building. The biggest challenge
> > was the WL and
> > FS locations of the rudder floor. I did this graphically with
> > drawings from
> > the group and scans of the instructions from the ERTL model.
> > If anyone
> > would like to know what I discovered I can let you know. I am
> > not sure now
> > whether to share this via this newsgroup, since Hi Rev might
> > find out and
> > try to make money on it.
> >
> > What is the group consensus on that position? Are we supposed
> > to keep our
> > discoveries to ourselves and indirectly make it difficult for fellow
> > builders in order to spite a company called hi rev? I am new
> > here and don't
> > want to offend anyone.
> >
> > By the way, the ERTL model was a very big help.
> >
> > v/r
> >
> > Chris Crowley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
> > [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Rob Hommel
> > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 11:04 PM
> > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
> >
> >
> > Chris:
> >
> > The Simpits FTP site contains a great deal of information
> > including cockpit
> > drawings of various aircraft. Gene has placed a great deal of
> > effort in this
> > FTP site for the benefit of all members of the Simpits Community. The
> > uploading of images/files such as are being discussed to the
> > FTP site would
> > perhaps be the best place to make it available to all members
> > of the group.
> > Their is a caveat, we cannot say that the company being
> > discussed cannot
> > ever get access to this information. If they are interested
> > in obtaining
> > this information their are other means of obtaining it. The
> > Simpits Group is
> > only a very small one, in a sea of others. If you can get
> > this information
> > others may as well.
> >
> > To the person who first requested this information, if you
> > have not done so
> > please check the FTP site to see if this information is
> > already available. A
> > request such as this may have already been answered, I seem
> > to remember a
> > previous discussion on a similar topic.  New members to the Simpits
> > community or those unfamiliar to the FTP site please take the time to
> > familiarize yourself with this valuable resource.
> >
> > I await the FAQ that has been mentioned to become available,
> > and for some
> > person to come forward to take over the maintenance of the
> > web site. Any
> > takers?
> >
> > The Simpits Community is not here to bash any company but we
> > have always had
> > a keen interest in any rumor that affects our avocation or
> > vocation.Please
> > take it that way, just the same there does seem to be a story in there
> > someplace that I for one would love to hear.
> >
> > Chris, as you have no doubt learned by now not all traffic
> > within the group
> > is on-topic, there is a fair amount of kidding that takes place, some
> > jealousy and envy as well. Some of the membership I am still
> > in awe of after
> > all this time. There has been rumor that Bert Betran has
> > looked in upon the
> > group as well as the major league players in the aviation industry,
> > commercial and general aviation and high performance aircraft
> > as well. The
> > software manufactures are interested in the group some of the
> > membership has
> > beta tested software's and other have created ad on's to existing
> > software's.
> >
> > Membership in this group is much like any community their are
> > folks who are
> > less than honest and would steal from the group and not
> > contribute but the
> > good ones make up for this.Prior to being a member into this group you
> > contributed to the group now as a member we welcome your
> > contributions and
> > your own brand of humor to keep us amused.
> >
> > Keep 'em Flying
> > Rob Hommel
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Woodul" <crewstation1@charter.net>
> > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
> >
> >
> > > Hi Gene and Group,
> > >
> > > I do not wish to affect anyones dealing with any company one way or
> > another.
> > > My goals here are fisrtly becuase I am an avid sim builder
> > and fanatic for
> > > cockpits and seats. I am not here as a representative of
> > any company (
> > > including where I work) In fact, my market place is the High End
> > market...I
> > > do have many frineds in the Home Pitting world and many of
> > them help me
> > with
> > > my project. I cannot do this alone. I totally belive in the
> > sharing of
> > good
> > > ideas when it is prudent.
> > > As a rational person though I felt I had to make the
> > statement that I
> > > did.....I cannot ignore scenarios that affect me
> > personally. Please take
> > all
> > > comments I make with a grain of salt.
> > > In the mean time, I have lots of great access and data that
> > I think can be
> > > useful to this group, just as the group does in return to
> > me, Thats what
> > > makes this disscussion board work.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb@deltasoft.com>
> > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 1:11 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
> > >
> > >
> > > > > builders. But it is very important that this
> > information does not end
> > up
> > > > > at a company called Hi Rev Sims. I am tired of
> > unwittingly providing
> > > > > them with information. My work Email is cwoodul@fain.com I am a
> > simpits
> > > >
> > > > Hehehe.  Therein lies many a problem Chris.  How can we
> > (as a group)
> > > > provide data to each other without some corporate wonk
> > coming through
> > and
> > > > sifting through it?  We really can't.  HOWEVER, we can
> > ensure that no
> > one
> > > > buys their junk. :)  Keep in mind that there are over 300
> > people on this
> > > > list and to a company that builds sim parts for a home
> > market, it's a
> > > > pretty significant customer base to piss off. :)  If Hi
> > Rev isn't on the
> > > > up and up, I'm sure folks here would just _love_ to hear
> > about it. :)
> > > >
> > > > g.
> > > >
> > > >
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