[simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....

Erwin Neyt simpits-tech@simpits.org
Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:08:57 +0200


Chris,

Beware that the ERTL model is not dimensionally correct. I don't have any
details but was assured several times there are some major flaws in it.

Erwin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris [mailto:ccrowley@mccrowley.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 June, 2002 11:48
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
> 
> 
> I went to the FTP site myself, and other members sites. I 
> also bought an
> ERTL 1/12 model. Between these 3 sources I was able to get most of the
> information I needed to begin building. The biggest challenge 
> was the WL and
> FS locations of the rudder floor. I did this graphically with 
> drawings from
> the group and scans of the instructions from the ERTL model.  
> If anyone
> would like to know what I discovered I can let you know. I am 
> not sure now
> whether to share this via this newsgroup, since Hi Rev might 
> find out and
> try to make money on it.
> 
> What is the group consensus on that position? Are we supposed 
> to keep our
> discoveries to ourselves and indirectly make it difficult for fellow
> builders in order to spite a company called hi rev? I am new 
> here and don't
> want to offend anyone.
> 
> By the way, the ERTL model was a very big help.
> 
> v/r
> 
> Chris Crowley
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
> [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Rob Hommel
> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 11:04 PM
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
> 
> 
> Chris:
> 
> The Simpits FTP site contains a great deal of information 
> including cockpit
> drawings of various aircraft. Gene has placed a great deal of 
> effort in this
> FTP site for the benefit of all members of the Simpits Community. The
> uploading of images/files such as are being discussed to the 
> FTP site would
> perhaps be the best place to make it available to all members 
> of the group.
> Their is a caveat, we cannot say that the company being 
> discussed cannot
> ever get access to this information. If they are interested 
> in obtaining
> this information their are other means of obtaining it. The 
> Simpits Group is
> only a very small one, in a sea of others. If you can get 
> this information
> others may as well.
> 
> To the person who first requested this information, if you 
> have not done so
> please check the FTP site to see if this information is 
> already available. A
> request such as this may have already been answered, I seem 
> to remember a
> previous discussion on a similar topic.  New members to the Simpits
> community or those unfamiliar to the FTP site please take the time to
> familiarize yourself with this valuable resource.
> 
> I await the FAQ that has been mentioned to become available, 
> and for some
> person to come forward to take over the maintenance of the 
> web site. Any
> takers?
> 
> The Simpits Community is not here to bash any company but we 
> have always had
> a keen interest in any rumor that affects our avocation or 
> vocation.Please
> take it that way, just the same there does seem to be a story in there
> someplace that I for one would love to hear.
> 
> Chris, as you have no doubt learned by now not all traffic 
> within the group
> is on-topic, there is a fair amount of kidding that takes place, some
> jealousy and envy as well. Some of the membership I am still 
> in awe of after
> all this time. There has been rumor that Bert Betran has 
> looked in upon the
> group as well as the major league players in the aviation industry,
> commercial and general aviation and high performance aircraft 
> as well. The
> software manufactures are interested in the group some of the 
> membership has
> beta tested software's and other have created ad on's to existing
> software's.
> 
> Membership in this group is much like any community their are 
> folks who are
> less than honest and would steal from the group and not 
> contribute but the
> good ones make up for this.Prior to being a member into this group you
> contributed to the group now as a member we welcome your 
> contributions and
> your own brand of humor to keep us amused.
> 
> Keep 'em Flying
> Rob Hommel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Woodul" <crewstation1@charter.net>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
> 
> 
> > Hi Gene and Group,
> >
> > I do not wish to affect anyones dealing with any company one way or
> another.
> > My goals here are fisrtly becuase I am an avid sim builder 
> and fanatic for
> > cockpits and seats. I am not here as a representative of 
> any company (
> > including where I work) In fact, my market place is the High End
> market...I
> > do have many frineds in the Home Pitting world and many of 
> them help me
> with
> > my project. I cannot do this alone. I totally belive in the 
> sharing of
> good
> > ideas when it is prudent.
> > As a rational person though I felt I had to make the 
> statement that I
> > did.....I cannot ignore scenarios that affect me 
> personally. Please take
> all
> > comments I make with a grain of salt.
> > In the mean time, I have lots of great access and data that 
> I think can be
> > useful to this group, just as the group does in return to 
> me, Thats what
> > makes this disscussion board work.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb@deltasoft.com>
> > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 1:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
> >
> >
> > > > builders. But it is very important that this 
> information does not end
> up
> > > > at a company called Hi Rev Sims. I am tired of 
> unwittingly providing
> > > > them with information. My work Email is cwoodul@fain.com I am a
> simpits
> > >
> > > Hehehe.  Therein lies many a problem Chris.  How can we 
> (as a group)
> > > provide data to each other without some corporate wonk 
> coming through
> and
> > > sifting through it?  We really can't.  HOWEVER, we can 
> ensure that no
> one
> > > buys their junk. :)  Keep in mind that there are over 300 
> people on this
> > > list and to a company that builds sim parts for a home 
> market, it's a
> > > pretty significant customer base to piss off. :)  If Hi 
> Rev isn't on the
> > > up and up, I'm sure folks here would just _love_ to hear 
> about it. :)
> > >
> > > g.
> > >
> > >
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