[simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
Jean Yves Surfin'
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Sun, 9 Jun 2002 19:44:10 +0200
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Thanks a lot Chris,
I'm glad that my carefully exams of real pictures were true. =20
About ACES II, I know that his 30 =B0 deg is really particular.
I will email same message to your work email.
Thanks for all, your drawings will be helpful.
And as a member too Cockpit Community, I don't communicate infos without =
the authorization of owner (and specially official stuff)
Best regards from France,
Jean-Yves Surfin'
101th squadron
www.quebecairforce.com
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Chris Woodul=20
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
Hi Jean,
I will go out to the real cockpit we have in house at where I work and =
measure that for you. Realize this:
The consoles have multiple angles. The inward tilt of the left and =
right side "down" into the cockpit is one, and the other is a more =
subtle one....the fore and aft consoles change angles slightly as they =
go backward into the cockpit. This is becuase of ergonomics...as you =
swing your arms in an arc while in the sitting position you can see why =
the General Dynamics Cockpit Design Team put in that angle change. I =
notice that many home sim pit builders make their side consoles flat and =
have no "arc' planes to them nor do they put in the inward tilt of the =
side consoles. This becomes really noticable as you are sitting in the =
ACES II at the 30 deg incline, and you try to SEE and REACH the controls =
that are towards the back of the consoles ( aft cockpit areas) it the =
angles are correct, you can easily see them and reach them. If not you =
have to grunt and strain.=20
If you will Email me at my work addy, I have a set of Drawings ( =
official) for the console design....also many others. I dont mind =
helping out home sim builders. But it is very important that this =
information does not end up at a company called Hi Rev Sims. I am tired =
of unwittingly providing them with information.
My work Email is cwoodul@fain.com
I am a simpits member on my home computer only ( to keep it simple to =
keep up)
Take care and good luck
Chris Woodul
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Thanks a lot Chris,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I'm glad that my carefully exams of real =
pictures were=20
true. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>About ACES II, I know that his 30 =
=B0 deg is=20
really particular.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I will email same message to your work =
email.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Thanks for all, your drawings will be=20
helpful.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>And as a member too Cockpit Community, I don't =
communicate=20
infos without the authorization of owner (and specially official=20
stuff)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Best regards from France,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT =
size=3D3>Jean-Yves</FONT> =20
<EM>Surfin'</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>101th squadron</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.quebecairforce.com">www.quebecairforce.com</A></FONT><=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 09, 2002 =
6:47 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [simpits-tech] =
About F16=20
angle console....</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jean,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will go out to the real cockpit we =
have in=20
house at where I work and measure that for you. Realize =
this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The consoles have multiple angles. =
The inward=20
tilt of the left and right side "down" into the cockpit is one, and =
the other=20
is a more subtle one....the fore and aft consoles change angles =
slightly as=20
they go backward into the cockpit. This is becuase of ergonomics...as =
you=20
swing your arms in an arc while in the sitting position you can see =
why the=20
General Dynamics Cockpit Design Team put in that angle change. I =
notice that=20
many home sim pit builders make their side consoles flat and have no =
"arc'=20
planes to them nor do they put in the inward tilt of the side =
consoles. This=20
becomes really noticable as you are sitting in the ACES II at the 30 =
deg=20
incline, and you try to SEE and REACH the controls that are towards =
the back=20
of the consoles ( aft cockpit areas) it the angles are correct, you =
can easily=20
see them and reach them. If not you have to grunt and strain. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you will Email me at my work addy, =
I have a=20
set of Drawings ( official) for the console design....also many =
others. I dont=20
mind helping out home sim builders. But it is very important that this =
information does not end up at a company called Hi Rev Sims. I am =
tired of=20
unwittingly providing them with information.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My work Email is <A=20
href=3D"mailto:cwoodul@fain.com">cwoodul@fain.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am a simpits member on my home =
computer=20
only ( to keep it simple to keep up)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Take care and good luck</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris Woodul</FONT></DIV>
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