[simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
Chris Woodul
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Sun, 9 Jun 2002 11:47:19 -0500
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Hi Jean,
I will go out to the real cockpit we have in house at where I work and =
measure that for you. Realize this:
The consoles have multiple angles. The inward tilt of the left and right =
side "down" into the cockpit is one, and the other is a more subtle =
one....the fore and aft consoles change angles slightly as they go =
backward into the cockpit. This is becuase of ergonomics...as you swing =
your arms in an arc while in the sitting position you can see why the =
General Dynamics Cockpit Design Team put in that angle change. I notice =
that many home sim pit builders make their side consoles flat and have =
no "arc' planes to them nor do they put in the inward tilt of the side =
consoles. This becomes really noticable as you are sitting in the ACES =
II at the 30 deg incline, and you try to SEE and REACH the controls that =
are towards the back of the consoles ( aft cockpit areas) it the angles =
are correct, you can easily see them and reach them. If not you have to =
grunt and strain.=20
If you will Email me at my work addy, I have a set of Drawings ( =
official) for the console design....also many others. I dont mind =
helping out home sim builders. But it is very important that this =
information does not end up at a company called Hi Rev Sims. I am tired =
of unwittingly providing them with information.
My work Email is cwoodul@fain.com
I am a simpits member on my home computer only ( to keep it simple to =
keep up)
Take care and good luck
Chris Woodul
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jean Yves Surfin'=20
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 11:18 AM
Subject: [simpits-tech] About F16 angle console....
Hi !
F-16 work in progress ....
My main side Left and Right console body are done
same for Auxiliary Right and Left.
Is there someone would like to answer about two questions..
1) What is the angle between the main and the auxiliary console ? =
same for left and right side ?
2) Are the main side console straight flat around pilot or when he is =
in pit, the farest panels are higher than nearest panels.
So, if there an angle, which one is it ? =20
Thanks for ur kindness
Surfin'
www.quebecairforce.com
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jean,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will go out to the real cockpit we =
have in house=20
at where I work and measure that for you. Realize this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The consoles have multiple angles. The =
inward tilt=20
of the left and right side "down" into the cockpit is one, and the other =
is a=20
more subtle one....the fore and aft consoles change angles slightly as =
they go=20
backward into the cockpit. This is becuase of ergonomics...as you swing =
your=20
arms in an arc while in the sitting position you can see why the General =
Dynamics Cockpit Design Team put in that angle change. I notice that =
many home=20
sim pit builders make their side consoles flat and have no "arc' planes =
to them=20
nor do they put in the inward tilt of the side consoles. This becomes =
really=20
noticable as you are sitting in the ACES II at the 30 deg incline, and =
you try=20
to SEE and REACH the controls that are towards the back of the consoles =
( aft=20
cockpit areas) it the angles are correct, you can easily see them and =
reach=20
them. If not you have to grunt and strain. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you will Email me at my work addy, I =
have a set=20
of Drawings ( official) for the console design....also many others. I =
dont mind=20
helping out home sim builders. But it is very important that this =
information=20
does not end up at a company called Hi Rev Sims. I am tired of =
unwittingly=20
providing them with information.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My work Email is <A=20
href=3D"mailto:cwoodul@fain.com">cwoodul@fain.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am a simpits member on my home =
computer=20
only ( to keep it simple to keep up)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Take care and good luck</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris Woodul</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dsurfer.man@wanadoo.fr =
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Surfin'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 09, 2002 =
11:18=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [simpits-tech] About =
F16 angle=20
console....</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>F-16 work in progress =
....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My main side Left and Right console =
body are=20
done</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>same for Auxiliary Right and =
Left.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there someone would like to =
answer about=20
two questions..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) What is the angle =
between the main and the auxiliary console ? same for left =
and=20
right side ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2) Are the main side =
console straight=20
flat around pilot or when he is in pit, the farest panels are =
higher than=20
nearest panels.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> So, if =
there an=20
angle, which one is it ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for ur kindness</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Surfin'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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href=3D"http://www.quebecairforce.com">www.quebecairforce.com</A></FONT><=
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