[simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
Chris Woodul
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Sat, 28 Dec 2002 22:06:20 -0600
Hi Brian,
Like anything else, I cannot claim to be 100 percent right on this, but I
did have lots of involvement with that system in the 1997-1998 time frame,
and I did study the bird before, during and after. The two seater that they
had was kind of cool cause they used the single seat transparancy cut in a
special way to be used in a NEW metal frame for the back seat canopy. If you
look at a picture of one, the back seat canopy is tapered much smaller than
the front, so its really a clever cost saving utilization of an existing
design. There could have been some de-mothballing of this jet during or
right after the gulf war and this lucky woman ended up getting a ride.
I am currently working a contract for my companies G-Cueing NACES seat that
we do in partnership with Cranfield Aerospace in the UK. I am trying to work
a flight in a USN Test Pilots School F/A-18 to feel some of the subltle
nuances of "G"pressures exerted on a pilots body during certain
manuvers.....but really, I just want another Jet Flight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
; )
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> Interesting stuff, Chris! You've got me doubting it a bit more, but it
still
> seems to stick out in my memory that it was a ride in an A-10... Of course
> there's no way to check on the news report, it was so long ago that I can
> barely remember... I seem to recall it was around the Gulf War. But if it
is
> true that it was grounded 18 years ago, then I must be wrong, no way do I
> remember that from when I was 1! Heheh. But if it were <10 or so, then I
may
> still be right. Or I may be completely full of it, both have been known to
> happen from time to time! :)
>
> Brian
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Chris Woodul" <crewstation1@charter.net>
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:44:19 -0600
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> The two seater was around back in the late seventies when the A-10 was in
> Production. I think it ended up at Edwards for an attempt at making the
> backseaters station a dedicated WSO position ( after the trainer version
> failed) but then that idea died as well. That two seater probably has not
> flown in 18 years?? I cant confirm this right off the bat. Until the 1990
> invasion of Kuwait the A-10 itself was on its last legs. The USAF did not
> want it. All the flight simulators were scraped and sold off in the late
> 80's. I worked on the UTD ( Unit Training Device) and in the process I
ended
> up getting to keep an A-10A cockpit section that was cut off a real A-10
at
> Davis Monthan AFB ( AMARC) in Tuscon Az. I was thrilled cause they thought
> that the cockpit was a piece of scrap that had no more use to them since
> they had already reverse engineered it. I ended up trading it to a friend
in
> California who still has it today. I also got to see the plane they cut
off
> the cockpit from at DM in person. They had the front end proped up on
Wooden
> crates to keep it level since it had no nose gear ( or nose for that
matter)
> It was almost a 16 foot long cockpit section with the titanium bathtub in
it
> and the canopy etc. When at DMAFB that time I did look for the two seat
A-10
> in the rows but did not see it. It may reside at the Edwards AFB musuem in
> California.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
>
>
> > 90% sure. This was some years ago... any idea when exactly it was
> > mothballed?
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "Chris Woodul" <crewstation1@charter.net>
> > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:15:48 -0600
> >
> > Are you sure? there was only one Two seat A-10 and it was a Fairchild
> 'One
> > Off' becuase the Hog was so easy to fly that the airforce found no need
> for
> > a two seat coversion trainer. The only one I know of has not flown in
> many
> > years and is in storage.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
> > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> >
> >
> > > I've heard of celebs getting flights before (hell a local TV
> Anchorwoman
> > > managed to score a flight in one of the VERY few 2-seat A-10's out
> there,
> > I
> > > still wanna know how that happened), but firing a sidewinder? PILOTS
> > don't
> > > get to do that very often!
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > >Somehow he scored a ride in viper and got to fly, pull 9G's and
fire
> off
> > a
> > > >sidewinder.
> > >
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