[simpits-tech] How do you deal with temperature inside the pit?

Albert Yung simpits-tech@simpits.org
Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:47:34 +1100


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MessageThanks for the reply Jay,

I have been trying to find out more info on the web, and try to fill in =
the question of how air conditioner and evaporative coolers works.

On another hand, i found something like this in one of the local =
electronic retailer chain here.

http://www.binglee.com.au/shop/results_display_single.asp?szProdID=3DEVAP=
ORATIV&szProdName=3DEvaporative+Coolers&szCatID=3DCLIMATECON&sqlWhere=3Di=
tem%2Eid+%3D2385&sqlWhereSum=3D%28item%2Eproduct+%3D+%27EVAPORATIV%27%29+=
AND+%28item%2Esubcategory+%3D+%27CLIMATECON%27+OR+item%2Ecategory+%3D+%27=
CLIMATECON%27%29+AND+%28item%2Eapproved+%3D+1%29&excite=3D

Let me know if that URL works or not...its a direct copy and paste. at =
only 200AUD, about 100US...if it can cools the temperature inside the =
f16 pit by about 10-20 degree and some circulation. That would be very =
idea I thought?=20

Might get a thermometre tomorrow. Its so warm in here now. Beer can only =
cool me down so much...

Albert

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Joseph Fagner=20
  To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
  Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 AM
  Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] How do you deal with temperature inside =
the pit?


  Evaporative coolers MUST be in a dry environment to work correctly.  =
If there is any kind of humidity present, then they will not work worth =
a flip.  Problem with EC is that they are usually big and cumbersome and =
need to be outside to work really well.
  =20
  Jay


  "Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I =
will show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones."  =
--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter
    -----Original Message-----
    From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org =
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Albert Yung
    Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 9:16 AM
    To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
    Subject: [simpits-tech] How do you deal with temperature inside the =
pit?


    Hi guys,

    This is a question especially for those of you who have or planning =
on building an enclose cockpit (especially for the f16), i.e. with a =
canopy. How do you deal with temperature that will bound to build up =
within the pit?
    =20
    Heat generated from all the electronics, backlid panels, extra =
monitors (If you are not using a projector) and your own body heat

    The only reason why I want to have a canopy is not for aesthetic but =
for "Sound proofing" myself when I talk over RW (because I share room).I =
dont want to "premanently" sound proofing myself by suffercating myself =
from within the cockpit. Turning the pit into a coffin :)=20

    To make matter worse I live in a flat where I cant break any walls =
to put in a ducted reverse cycle air cond... I have grills and bars on =
my windows to keep out intruders so no way I can put in a wall/window =
mounted air cond. My only hope would be a portable air conditioner or =
one of those evaporative coolers...modify it and throw an inlet into the =
pit.

    My second question would be, evaporative coolers, are they any =
effective in cooling the inner space of the f16 pit? because the price =
of one of them is like 1/10 of a portable air conditioner.

    Would love to hear all of your thoughts :)

    Albert
    Sydney, bloody boiling in Austraila

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the reply Jay,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been trying to find out more =
info on the=20
web, and try to fill in the question of how air conditioner and =
evaporative=20
coolers works.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On another hand, i found something like =
this in one=20
of the local electronic retailer chain here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.binglee.com.au/shop/results_display_single.asp?szProdI=
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CON&amp;sqlWhere=3Ditem%2Eid+%3D2385&amp;sqlWhereSum=3D%28item%2Eproduct+=
%3D+%27EVAPORATIV%27%29+AND+%28item%2Esubcategory+%3D+%27CLIMATECON%27+OR=
+item%2Ecategory+%3D+%27CLIMATECON%27%29+AND+%28item%2Eapproved+%3D+1%29&=
amp;excite=3D">http://www.binglee.com.au/shop/results_display_single.asp?=
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D+1%29&amp;excite=3D</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let me know if that URL works or =
not...its a direct=20
copy and paste. at only 200AUD, about 100US...if it can cools the =
temperature=20
inside the f16 pit by about 10-20 degree and some circulation. That =
would be=20
very idea I thought? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Might get a thermometre tomorrow. Its =
so warm in=20
here now. Beer can only cool me down so much...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Albert</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:crease-guard@attbi.com" =
title=3Dcrease-guard@attbi.com>Joseph=20
  Fagner</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:simpits-tech@simpits.org"=20
  title=3Dsimpits-tech@simpits.org>simpits-tech@simpits.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 25, 2002 =
2:30=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [simpits-tech] How =
do you=20
  deal with temperature inside the pit?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D141422715-24112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>Evaporative coolers MUST be in a dry environment to work=20
  correctly.&nbsp; If there is any kind of humidity present, then they =
will not=20
  work worth a flip.&nbsp; Problem with EC is that they are usually big =
and=20
  cumbersome and need to be outside to work really =
well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D141422715-24112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D141422715-24112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>Jay</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"MS Serif" size=3D2><STRONG>"Show me a =
man who cannot=20
  be bothered to do the little things, and I will show you a man who =
cannot be=20
  trusted&nbsp;to do the&nbsp;big ones."&nbsp; --Lawrence Bell, Founder =
Bell=20
  Helicopter</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
lang=3Den-us><FONT=20
    face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
    simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org =
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] <B>On=20
    Behalf Of </B>Albert Yung<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 24, =
1999 9:16=20
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[simpits-tech]=20
    How do you deal with temperature inside the =
pit?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi guys,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is a question especially for =
those of you=20
    who have or planning on building an enclose cockpit (especially for =
the=20
    f16), i.e. with a canopy. How do you deal with temperature that will =
bound=20
    to build up within the pit?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Heat generated from all the =
electronics,=20
    backlid panels, extra monitors (If you are not using a projector) =
and your=20
    own body heat</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only reason why I want to have =
a canopy is=20
    not for aesthetic but for "Sound proofing" myself when I talk over =
RW=20
    (because I share room).I dont want to "premanently" sound proofing =
myself by=20
    suffercating myself from within the cockpit. Turning the pit into a =
coffin=20
    :) </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To make matter worse I live in a =
flat where I=20
    cant break any walls to put in a ducted reverse cycle air cond... I =
have=20
    grills and bars on my windows to keep out intruders so no way I can =
put in a=20
    wall/window mounted air cond. My only hope would be a portable air=20
    conditioner or one of those evaporative coolers...modify it and =
throw an=20
    inlet into the pit.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My second question would be, =
evaporative=20
    coolers, are they any effective in cooling the inner space of the =
f16 pit?=20
    because the price of one of them is like 1/10 of a portable air=20
    conditioner.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Would love to hear all of your =
thoughts=20
    :)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Albert</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sydney, bloody boiling in=20
  Austraila</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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