[GEM Development] GEM Networking (was RE: GEMWeb with ADSL or Cable)

Fri Jul 16 12:40:56 PDT 2004

All,
What would be awesome .. 802.11b support in GEM.
Would be fairly easy to port from linux would it?
I don't know.. It's an out-there question based on postings I've seen
recently.
GEM-Wireless with GEM-Web?.. Mouthwatering.
Does anyone have any plans for GEM-FTP, GEM-MSN ? GEM-IRC?
I just wonder..

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Peter,
G'day mate.. Good to see we've still got some posters here! 

USB2 is a very good standard, USB 1.X was absolutely crap and I'd
suggest strongly if you can.. Get a USB 2 setup going with a hub and
"backwardscompatibilise" the older devices. 
Due to some serious lack of standards in USB1.x we had half of the
manufacturers creating NEC "openhost" compliant devices and half.. Not..
A mixture would work with Via based chipsets and a mixture would work
with Intel.. It was a nightmare.

Get yourself a good quality USB2 PCI card and all your worries will
dissapear..
Personally, I had great results with one I got from dick smith.. (I
know.. I know.. Dick smith.. But it was discounted!)
Matched with a decent hub should work like a treat.

I definitely agree with laptop-usb being far more friendly, infact.. USB
was designed as a collection of ideas into one main standard for all
hardware platforms, embedded.. Etc.. Pity no one agreed and the
collection of ideas turned into a collection of standards!!!

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By the way I saw an email about something in "Forbes".. Mannnnnnnnnnn
that's out the middle of no-where!!
I laughed tho, small towns are where I grew up (Bacchus marsh, about
half way between melbourne and ballarat).
My first memory of a phone was a giant pulse dialed thing that when it'd
ring, we'd answer and there'd be commonly someone on the other end
already mid-conversation and we'd know it wasn't for us..

Makes me laugh living in inner city suburbs now on a "3g" mobile surfing
the net from the train.. Annyway :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: gem-dev-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:gem-dev-bounces at simpits.org]
On Behalf Of Peter Green
Sent: Thursday, 15 July 2004 10:40 PM
To: a.colleye at wxs.nl; GEM Development
Subject: Re: [GEM Development] GEMWeb with ADSL or Cable

G'day again!

Armand, you asked me to comment, but I'm not sure what part you wanted a
comment on. If it's the DNS limits, I really don't know, though I use
Win 2k. If that's the question, I can pass it on to someone more expert
than myself.

If you are talking about USB, I generally avoid it where I can, as I
haven't found it entirely reliable. I have USB 1.1 on the board of my
main computer, supporting a scanner and printer, but I can't connect
other devices via a hub, as they destroy the scanner/printer
installation, meaning I have to reinstall software to use them. My
daughter's webcam is a special problem in this respect.

I also have a USB 2.0 card, which the computer knows is there, but
that's all. I have crashed the computer a couple of times trying to use
it, but mostly the computer just won't detect anything on that card. I
suppose it keeps dust from collecting in that PCI slot. After the first
time I tried to use it and the computer crashed, Windows Help
disappeared, so there's no troubleshooting help now, not that that often
does anything anyway.

On the other hand, I also have a laptop with 1x USB 1.1 connexion and a
USB 2.0 PCMCIA card, and they both work quite well. So maybe USB is only
for laptops.

I use a NIC in the desktop machine for the cable access.

Have a fun and USB-free weekend.

Peter

Armand Colleye wrote:

> Heinz Rath wrote:
>
>> hi
>>
>> i am not completly sure if i correctly understood what Armand mean.
>>  
>>
> Well Heinz, English is als not my first language.
> So I have to try to put my thoughts in simple words. Like you do I 
> presume
> Sorry if I can't help you, because you put your statement in front, 
> and not underneath my lines.
> So I do not have any clue, which text-part you don't understand.
>
>> You can use GEMWeb to surf internet also with ADSL of Cable
>> the only thing is you need is that your cable or adsl modem is
>> connected threw a network card with your computer. For USB adsl
>> modems i have no solution.
>>  
>>
> In the Netherlands the competition between the providers is strong. 
> You get more for less.
> This means that the upload/donwload stream get bigger for the same or 
> less flat-fee per month.
> Keep that in mind and that USB is a piece of hardware that is not 
> capable (in the end) to cope with such data quantity streams.
> USB is invented after DOS. SO to have drivers to get USB under DOS is 
> difficult if not possible.
>
> In order to use GEMWEB you need the other vehicle, and that is a sort 
> of TXP/IP going is it not?
>
>> For example i am using cable. The trick do it is to simple
>> use a pktdrvr for dos. that's it nothing more to do at least
>> for me as i have a fixed ip. If you have a dynamic ip you would
>> habe to search for a dhcp client.
>>
>> there is a little update for GEMWeb needed. you can download it
>> here.
>> http://www.geocities.com/heinz_rath/gemwupd.zip
>>
>> here you can find some packet drivers
>> http://www.crynwr.com/drivers/00index.html
>>
>>  
>>
> Well thanks for the URL's :))
>
>> you can also use the msclient network to surf with gemweb. i think
>> i have here still a mail on my harddisk which describes how it
>> works...(i think the file protocol.ini needs change) i will search
>> it out if you need it.
>>
>> the trick is simply set packet interrupt to 0x60
>> and then make this changes to wattcp.cfg
>> IP=x.x.x.x
>> NETMASK=255.255.255.0
>> GATEWAY=x.x.x.x
>> NAMESERVER=x.x.x.x
>>
>>  
>>
> I use a DSL-router modem.
> The trick above is correct, with the following addition/mutation
(IMHO):
> IP is the IP you give to your own PC. Static or via dhcp
> GATEWAY is the ip-adres you give your router.
> The default route should lead to this IP-adres.
> seearch through the man-pages and you will find a command line that 
> reads like:
> route add 0 ip-adres or route add default ip-adres
> nameserver or DNS should contain the ip-adres of your own router and 
> the dns-ip that form your provider. So in total 2 lines.
> OS/2 has a maximum of 3 DNS. Maybe have other OS'es a other limit.
>
>> instead of x.x.x.x write your ip's.
>> i hope this helps.
>>
>>  
>>
> To me, Armand a lot.
> Peter please give feedback on this
>
>> with nice greetings
>> heinz
>>
>>  
>>
> Have Fun
> Armand
>
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