[GEM Development] GEM Networking (was RE: GEMWeb with ADSL or
Cable)
Peter Green
pspete1 at pnc.com.au
Thu Jul 22 01:49:58 PDT 2004
This is a combined answer to Armand and Chris. Sorry I didn't answer
before, but, over the past two weekends both our girls have moved into
their own flats. Picture me puffing up four floors carrying a 51cm TV...
something like a walrus out of water. Then, to cap it off, one of the
blokes from our church fell 6m from a power pole he was working on, so
I've been across Sydney a couple of times to the hospital. Somehow,
quite a few e-mails seem to have fallen out of my view!
First, thanks for the information about DNS... I had a rough idea (my
son breezed through one evening while I was writing scripts to get my
computers talking to each other and said, "You'd be better to look at
DNS.") This gives me a bit more background.
Second, thanks to both of you for what you've said about USB. Actually,
in recent weeks, we've upgraded at work, and USB 2.0 works quite happily
there, too. If only I can get the card and my computer chatting at
home... It sounds worth persevering with, anyway. I've found that the
USB 1.1 port that my scanner is on is not too bad for digital camera and
removable USB storage device anyway. I think the computer ignores the
scanner because it is mainly switched off. On the other hand, it has
even grumbled about my unplugging the storage thingy after I've done all
the right hardware removal things.
I have a Motorola Surfboard cable modem at home, connected to a network
card, and this will eventually go to the linux box which will then feed
to two or three points around the house. Due to the rearrangement of
space in the house now that there are no children living with us, the
study will return to its original position from 20 years ago, and the
space where I currently have my desk and a variety of bookcases will be
emptied of all but a fridge, a server and a switch. -- and maybe a
phone, seeing there's a jack out here.
Your Bacchus Marsh phone would have been very similar to my Aunty
Panse's black monster at the Forbes farm (Grenfell, actually, but it was
all leading Bushranger country in Gardner's days). From memory, there
was no dial: you had to wind a handle a vcertain number of turns in
various directions, something like opening a safe, only much quicker.
And then the wrong person would answer, same as at Bacchus Marsh. My
memories of the device are dim, as the last time I went there I was 7,
which makes it about 51 years ago.
3g web surfing? I'm very impressed!
Well, good night, all!
Peter
Dostal, Chris E. wrote:
>All,
>What would be awesome .. 802.11b support in GEM.
>Would be fairly easy to port from linux would it?
>I don't know.. It's an out-there question based on postings I've seen
>recently.
>GEM-Wireless with GEM-Web?.. Mouthwatering.
>Does anyone have any plans for GEM-FTP, GEM-MSN ? GEM-IRC?
>I just wonder..
>
>-------------------------
>Peter,
>G'day mate.. Good to see we've still got some posters here!
>
>USB2 is a very good standard, USB 1.X was absolutely crap and I'd
>suggest strongly if you can.. Get a USB 2 setup going with a hub and
>"backwardscompatibilise" the older devices.
>Due to some serious lack of standards in USB1.x we had half of the
>manufacturers creating NEC "openhost" compliant devices and half.. Not..
>A mixture would work with Via based chipsets and a mixture would work
>with Intel.. It was a nightmare.
>
>Get yourself a good quality USB2 PCI card and all your worries will
>dissapear..
>Personally, I had great results with one I got from dick smith.. (I
>know.. I know.. Dick smith.. But it was discounted!)
>Matched with a decent hub should work like a treat.
>
>I definitely agree with laptop-usb being far more friendly, infact.. USB
>was designed as a collection of ideas into one main standard for all
>hardware platforms, embedded.. Etc.. Pity no one agreed and the
>collection of ideas turned into a collection of standards!!!
>
>--------------------
>By the way I saw an email about something in "Forbes".. Mannnnnnnnnnn
>that's out the middle of no-where!!
>I laughed tho, small towns are where I grew up (Bacchus marsh, about
>half way between melbourne and ballarat).
>My first memory of a phone was a giant pulse dialed thing that when it'd
>ring, we'd answer and there'd be commonly someone on the other end
>already mid-conversation and we'd know it wasn't for us..
>
>Makes me laugh living in inner city suburbs now on a "3g" mobile surfing
>the net from the train.. Annyway :-)
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gem-dev-bounces at simpits.org [mailto:gem-dev-bounces at simpits.org]
>On Behalf Of Peter Green
>Sent: Thursday, 15 July 2004 10:40 PM
>To: a.colleye at wxs.nl; GEM Development
>Subject: Re: [GEM Development] GEMWeb with ADSL or Cable
>
>G'day again!
>
>Armand, you asked me to comment, but I'm not sure what part you wanted a
>comment on. If it's the DNS limits, I really don't know, though I use
>Win 2k. If that's the question, I can pass it on to someone more expert
>than myself.
>
>If you are talking about USB, I generally avoid it where I can, as I
>haven't found it entirely reliable. I have USB 1.1 on the board of my
>main computer, supporting a scanner and printer, but I can't connect
>other devices via a hub, as they destroy the scanner/printer
>installation, meaning I have to reinstall software to use them. My
>daughter's webcam is a special problem in this respect.
>
>I also have a USB 2.0 card, which the computer knows is there, but
>that's all. I have crashed the computer a couple of times trying to use
>it, but mostly the computer just won't detect anything on that card. I
>suppose it keeps dust from collecting in that PCI slot. After the first
>time I tried to use it and the computer crashed, Windows Help
>disappeared, so there's no troubleshooting help now, not that that often
>does anything anyway.
>
>On the other hand, I also have a laptop with 1x USB 1.1 connexion and a
>USB 2.0 PCMCIA card, and they both work quite well. So maybe USB is only
>for laptops.
>
>I use a NIC in the desktop machine for the cable access.
>
>Have a fun and USB-free weekend.
>
>Peter
>
>Armand Colleye wrote:
>
>
>
>>Heinz Rath wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>hi
>>>
>>>i am not completly sure if i correctly understood what Armand mean.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Well Heinz, English is als not my first language.
>>So I have to try to put my thoughts in simple words. Like you do I
>>presume
>>Sorry if I can't help you, because you put your statement in front,
>>and not underneath my lines.
>>So I do not have any clue, which text-part you don't understand.
>>
>>
>>
>>>You can use GEMWeb to surf internet also with ADSL of Cable
>>>the only thing is you need is that your cable or adsl modem is
>>>connected threw a network card with your computer. For USB adsl
>>>modems i have no solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>In the Netherlands the competition between the providers is strong.
>>You get more for less.
>>This means that the upload/donwload stream get bigger for the same or
>>less flat-fee per month.
>>Keep that in mind and that USB is a piece of hardware that is not
>>capable (in the end) to cope with such data quantity streams.
>>USB is invented after DOS. SO to have drivers to get USB under DOS is
>>difficult if not possible.
>>
>>In order to use GEMWEB you need the other vehicle, and that is a sort
>>of TXP/IP going is it not?
>>
>>
>>
>>>For example i am using cable. The trick do it is to simple
>>>use a pktdrvr for dos. that's it nothing more to do at least
>>>for me as i have a fixed ip. If you have a dynamic ip you would
>>>habe to search for a dhcp client.
>>>
>>>there is a little update for GEMWeb needed. you can download it
>>>here.
>>>http://www.geocities.com/heinz_rath/gemwupd.zip
>>>
>>>here you can find some packet drivers
>>>http://www.crynwr.com/drivers/00index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Well thanks for the URL's :))
>>
>>
>>
>>>you can also use the msclient network to surf with gemweb. i think
>>>i have here still a mail on my harddisk which describes how it
>>>works...(i think the file protocol.ini needs change) i will search
>>>it out if you need it.
>>>
>>>the trick is simply set packet interrupt to 0x60
>>>and then make this changes to wattcp.cfg
>>>IP=x.x.x.x
>>>NETMASK=255.255.255.0
>>>GATEWAY=x.x.x.x
>>>NAMESERVER=x.x.x.x
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I use a DSL-router modem.
>>The trick above is correct, with the following addition/mutation
>>
>>
>(IMHO):
>
>
>>IP is the IP you give to your own PC. Static or via dhcp
>>GATEWAY is the ip-adres you give your router.
>>The default route should lead to this IP-adres.
>>seearch through the man-pages and you will find a command line that
>>reads like:
>>route add 0 ip-adres or route add default ip-adres
>>nameserver or DNS should contain the ip-adres of your own router and
>>the dns-ip that form your provider. So in total 2 lines.
>>OS/2 has a maximum of 3 DNS. Maybe have other OS'es a other limit.
>>
>>
>>
>>>instead of x.x.x.x write your ip's.
>>>i hope this helps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>To me, Armand a lot.
>>Peter please give feedback on this
>>
>>
>>
>>>with nice greetings
>>>heinz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Have Fun
>>Armand
>>
>>
>>
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