[Fwd: Re: [GEM Development] New changes]

[Armand Colleye]

Hi all,

I forwarded this message to the group, and not to Peter alone

Sorry Peter!

But you wrote this email conversation not to the group, so I skipped the 
part that is off topic ;-(
But i fI have to delete all mail that is off-topic then there is not 
much left ;-)

Thanks, Armand.

That was clever, that reference to GEMWEB. I'm glad to see we stay on 
topic here. :-)


Well, If you can't go on the web with DOS (any flavour) and GEM (any 
Flavour) without GEMWEB and TCPIP  the mail  in it its whole is not so 
off-topic at  all
 
I'd expect that you (in the Netherlands, and probably around Europe in
general) have the choice between cable and some form of DSL, but here in
Australia that is not so clear-cut. Even in the Sydney suburbs, it is
easy to be too far from the exchange to get ADSL, and sometimes you
don't even get it when you are close enough, because of multiplexing.
And cable hasn't been extended across all of Sydney, either. Some
carriers still offer ISDN for where the other two are unavailable.

It gets worse outside capital cities where satellite can be the best
option. Do you get The Simpsons in Rotterdam? That episode where Bart
telephones a kid in outback Australia has echoes of reality. Until
fairly recently relatives of mine within 5 or 6 hours' drive of Sydney
were on manual exchanges and had party lines so that half a dozen
neighbours would pick up the phone and answer if you made a call in to
town, so you'd have to say, "Sorry Bill, just calling the proctologist
at Forbes," and they'd hang up.

As for the group: was there any survey how we are connected to the web?
Modem? (A)DSL or otherwise?

Incidentally, any country which could produce that hilarious couple of
films about the dysfunctional family moved into an upper class suburb
(was it the Flodder family? Memory is beginning to fade) would surely
appreciate The Simpsons.

Yes it is called the Flodders.

[snip]

New part:
As group we admire GEM.
Some of us were (?) writing great programs.
Like GEMWEB (Heinz was if I am not mistaken) is a program of no use if 
you don't have HTML-files to read.
The great majority of those files are on the WEB, so you have to have 
access to the WEB.
To get acces to the WEB and still want to use GEM you need an OS who's 
providing TCP/IP and DOS in any way.
Correct?

A short list of the above could be:
Windows
OS/2
Linux with a dos box

In agricultural terms speaking the OS is the horse who's carrying TCP/IP 
and GEM.
If you can't saddle the horse with TCP/IP, it's gonna be a tough ride.

At the moment I'm searching the net for a TCP/IP package for DOS, which 
I believe is still the best natural enviroment for GEM.

If I have found something good I will let you know.

Have Fun
Armand

Thanks for the suggestions about the router. I'd managed to get three
computers talking to each other, but was fiddling with Samba with not
entirely satisfactory results. I'll have to get back to that. BigPond
Cable is not entirely LINUX-friendly, either, but, fortunately, enough
people have had problems that there is a pretty large self-help
community now.

Well, it's bedtime here. Enjoy the day, the rest of you.

Peter

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