[GEM Development] Wanted: GST Publisher [WAS: (no subject)]
-|- awave
veganalex at gmail.com
Mon Jul 10 19:13:22 PDT 2006
hmm...my room is about - less than three metres in height - so no
chance with the mezzanine mate!
as for shane, i thought you were in London :~P - never knew you were
irish/part japanese - and the convict part - i think i might have some
very, distant relative (well...it was over 150years or something now
since they last sent bad people to australia isnt it?) and i would be
very, very suprised (but probably nicely suprised :~P) if one of you
turned out to be related to me lol - i don't think that will happen
though
erm...and whats the gibberish about :~P - not sure i should call it
that - but i definately don't talk like that lol! - i take it that
'lie, dijobu desyo' from what you've said means 'no, that's OK' would
be how it would be said in Japanese (im extremely slow...and im sure
it is rather obvious but...)
-|- awave
On 09/07/06, Peter Green <pspete1 at pnc.com.au> wrote:
>
> You'd have to discuss with Thomas whether it's offensive to be called an
> Aussie. At first, I thought you were suggesting that we Australians might
> find it offensive, but then a Pom would probably have said, "I'm sorry,
> Cobber!" to one of us, and "...Mate!" to a Yank. :-) But we are getting
> close to repeating the discussion this group had some years ago about what a
> "guy" is...
>
> SHIFT+3 = # on US Keyboards. In Australia, we use US keyboards but
> Australian (or UK) English, European date style, metric units and A4 paper.
> Incidentally, I did find it rather exciting at first, driving at 110
> (=70mph) on the A-roads and suddenly being confronted with a sign saying
> something like
> "<-Nottingham 2".
> Six feet is a very short distance in which to make a left turn across two
> lanes at that speed...
>
> I don't know when the group first commenced, but I think I joined around
> 1998, so maybe you had been born by the time Armand last contributed,
> GDFKAV. From memory we had a deeply GEM conversation about how he might
> network the computers in his house, and we may well not have discussed
> NetBEUI, which might put it into a time context.
>
> Have you thought of putting a mezzanine in your room? I've thought about
> it, here; but think my wife would get suspicious that I was planning to
> bring more computers into the house. Isn't it sad that some people are so
> untrusting?
>
> :-þ
>
> Sorry to forget you, Shane. I put you down as Japanese.
>
> Peter
>
> -|- awave wrote:
> look - bloody hell! i didn't know it was so offensive to be called an
> aussie! (tehehe i hope it was a joke!...but then again...im sorry
> mate0
>
> yep i know that it takes more than the $ key - wow! i never knew that
> you couldn't get a £ sign on EVERY keyboard by using SHIFT+3 - i think
> that on some of the dell keyboards at school there is a euro
> (erm...dunno how to get it on my keyboard ;) ) symbol instead of the $
> one on mine and...almost every other keyboard i've used in my lifetime
>
> wow...i know im young...and probably rather gullable but - i didnt
> know there was stuff like this before i was born! - and especially
> that the date of gem being opensourced was moved back a while! - im
> 14! not 6 or 7 tehehe!
>
> ok the reason i've turned this offer down is because i dont have any
> space...seriously...my bedroom is full of phones and my computer, a
> tele, my bed, and a cupboard...there is NO room for another computer
> :~P
>
> -|- awave
>
> On 09/07/06, Peter Green <pspete1 at pnc.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> To The GEM Developer Formerly Known as Veganalex,
>
> Thomas is a nice bloke, who needs all our support, considering he has a
> Tidy Sister; but he is very clearly not Australian. It's always important
> to make that distinction. It takes more than a $ sign on the keyboard to
> make an Aussie. Incidentally, Thomas, the £ (Pound) sign is obtained by
> typing ALT+0163 using the numeric keypad -- unless you are using a UK
> keyboard. We used to use Australian Pounds until 1966.
>
> As far as I am aware, the only Australians in this group are Chris Dostal,
> Scott McDonald (my "neighbour" -- Marrickville and Newtown run into each
> about at the Vic on the Park Pub) and myself. Anyone else passing him or
> herself off (where's Freya?) as Australian is a ring-in.
>
> Paul Cull is nearly Australian, being originally from New Zealand. He
> says,
> "Gidday", where I say, "G'day".
>
> There were a few Poms and Scots, but they seem to have moved to the
> Benighted States*, so I don't know who is left. Have they copied the big
> sign from Aukland and put it at Heathrow: "Will the last person to leave
> please ensure that the lights are turned off"?
>
> There are the Germans, whose names generally give them away, a couple of
> Frenchmen, and the solitary Dutch contributor, Armand Colleye -- but he may
> well have last contributed before you were born.
>
> Anyone else had better put his hand up and tell us.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
>
> *I'll consider reverting to the earlier name after the next Presidential
> Elections...
>
>
> -|- awave wrote:
> To thomas,
>
> don't bother posting it mate - well...i'm not atall sure about the
> conversion rates - but i know its above half and below 3/4 so...im not
> sure - i'll work it out properly sometime.
>
> right - if i bought one off ebay it would have to be uk based because
> it wouldnt be worth inporting tbh. ahhh i thought you were from aus
> dude :~P and also it wouldnt be v.a.t ontop of it because thats only
> new purchases - it would be the cost of the package to me(which would
> be nil if you were to send(dont think p&p included)...which your not
> going to) - so therefore i don't think there would be any tax
> atall...i hope - there would probably be a 4quid charge by royal mail
> or something though...but it doesnt really matter because i dont
> really want it tbh :~P - im not that into this whole thing! lol
>
> right im off to bed now...its late so night everyone!
>
> -|- awave
>
> On 08/07/06, Thomas Clayton <topcatdrc at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear a-|-wave:
>
> It's 100 US$ - PURE guess! I find it noteworthy that you equate
> that to 60 Great Britain Pounds (GPB) whcih is what I thought the
> pseudo-L meant. [Where does he find that on a keyboard??? ;-( ]
> Are you sure of the conversion rate? (ballpark / football pitch is
> close enough!)
>
> Anyway, I'll actually get a TRUE (US Postal) shipping cost if you
> give me A REAL (if only an approximate - like Westminster
> Cathedral) UK address for the postal service to 'punch in' to their
> terminal.
> BTW, N.W. suburb of Chicago, IL, USA for me. Find Chicago. Find
> O'hare Airport NW of center of city. I'm in far NW corner of Des
> Plaines just North of O'hare.
>
> Why would an e-bay item (US-based) be cheaper? - or would it be a
> UK-based one you're talking about?
>
> Lastly, IF .. I DO something crazy .. and post it to you;
> THEN you'll pay ANY V.A.Tax - since I haven't the FOGGIEST of
> ideas of what that would be.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Thomas F. Clayton
>
>
> --- -|- awave <veganalex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > To Thomas,
> >
> > yeh i'm in england - the money discussion was meaning that if it
> > cost
> > about AU$100 to ship it to me, and that was about £60GBP - then
> > it
> > would be hardly worth it really....you can get a p1 for that
> > much-ish
> > on ebay so...but the 286 cpu would be better than the 8086 so its
> > tempting but i have no way to pay and its rather un-economical
> > aswell.
> >
> > ok right - veganalex is what i used to call meself - my name is
> > alex
> > and i am vegan...so it went nicely till some other vegan's called
> > alex
> > decided to come and use the same username is some places - and
> > then
> > awave stands for first letters in first name (a)lex - and then
> > the
> > surname (asterisked out ;) ) - (wa)******* (ve)*********** (not
> > right
> > letters...so no guessing =D lol - and the -|- is decoration so..
> >
> > -|- awave
> >
> > On 06/07/06, Thomas Clayton <topcatdrc at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Dear veganalex:
> > >
> > > Are you in England (as I thought) OR in Australia - or
> > elsewhere???
> > >
> > > (Your money discussion leads me to wonder .. .)
> > >
> > > What's "veganalex" that you chose it as a 'screen name'?
> > >
> > > My thought about the PS/2 25-'286 was to find it a 'good' home
> > - as
> > > one says about orphans. Anyway, for GEM 'work', it'd be
> > > appropriate. multi-ple 30MB HDDs used one at a time
> > >
> > >
> > > Friends of mine got a second one at the same time as I did. I
> > > wonder what they did with theirs?
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Thomas Clayton
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- veganalex <veganalex at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > hmm....yeh i'd love that....dunno what its like but yeh i'd
> > love
> > > > it...i could no-way afford to pay over $100 (US/AUS?) - so
> > thats
> > > > about
> > > > £60 (GBP)...hmmm....i could actually get one off ebay for
> > less
> > > > than
> > > > that i thinks...so nope sorry dude!
> > > >
> > > > hope you find someone that does want the computers ;)
> > > >
> > > > veganalex
> > > >
> > > > PS. - is there a java dos environment for mobile phones
> > > > (preferably
> > > > sony ericsson), i would love to work on something like this
> > to
> > > > have
> > > > gem running on a phone (weird it may be...but probably rather
> > > > useful
> > > > ;) )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 21/06/06, Thomas Clayton <topcatdrc at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Dear Veg:
> > > > >
> > > > > In my case, an IBM PS/2 Mdl 25-286 was the first
> > PC-compatable
> > > > > BOUGHT(!). (I'd had PC-PCs and PC-XTs in the house earlier.
> > > > They
> > > > > were scavenged from dump-bins - the 30ft x 12ft x 8ft tall
> > > > 'trays'
> > > > > that fit onto truck trailers - from firms moving out of the
> > > > office
> > > > > park.) Still have it but not for much longer! What would it
> > > > cost to
> > > > > get it to you, I wonder? ~40lbs to England. Over 100$, I'd
> > > > guess.
> > > > > Oh well. Loved to have found a GOOD home for it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Got a PS/2 55sx upgraded to an 80488x2 MCA system as well.
> > Its
> > > > > going, too, fairly soon.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > TomC
> > > > >
> > > > > --- veganalex <veganalex at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > hmmm...i know that it would have cost a hell of
> > alot...but
> > > > that
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > secure it that it was the total wrong computer at the
> > time to
> > > > > > buy...but its happened...and it can't be changed
> > > > now...so....i'll
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > a good look on it when i get it out in the autumn (far
> > too
> > > > hot to
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > playing with old eletricals that could end up going up in
> > a
> > > > pile
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > smoke because of the heat!), to find a date of
> > purchase/date
> > > > when
> > > > > > made.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hehe that's a difference of...47years! - thats a big age
> > gap
> > > > > > anyway
> > > > > >
> > > > > > veganalex
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 21/06/06, Peter Green <pspete1 at pnc.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > G'day!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I had an Amstrad briefly, but can't remember if it was
> > a
> > > > 1512
> > > > > > or a 5086.
> > > > > > > Both were sold in Australia. Someone rescued it from a
> > skip
> > > > and
> > > > > > passed it on
> > > > > > > to me, but I sent it off soon afterwards to some
> > recycling
> > > > or
> > > > > > charity
> > > > > > > organisation because I had no use for it. It worked,
> > but
> > > > wasn't
> > > > > > a patch on
> > > > > > > my 286 with an SVGA monitor and a 40MB HDD. I also have
> > > > 5-1/4"
> > > > > > floppies
> > > > > > > containing Amstrad's GEM (v1.2?), but got those
> > separately.
> > > > I
> > > > > > sent the
> > > > > > > content of these disks to Robert Avis (anyone know what
> > > > became
> > > > > > of him?) who
> > > > > > > posted them to his site.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was interested to hear that Amstrads were sold in
> > the US
> > > > > > under the
> > > > > > > Sinclair brand. My first contact with Sinclair was
> > through
> > > > a
> > > > > > semi-kitform
> > > > > > > stereo amplifier, which used an unconventional audio
> > output
> > > > > > system.
> > > > > > > Unfortunately, it was not protected against high
> > current
> > > > draw
> > > > > > under no load
> > > > > > > conditions, and one channel spectacularly died when a
> > > > speaker
> > > > > > lead was
> > > > > > > accidentally dislodged.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 386 computers were certainly becoming available here
> > by
> > > > around
> > > > > > 1987, as I
> > > > > > > remember an exhibition in that year of computers and
> > the
> > > > use of
> > > > > > computers at
> > > > > > > the Theological College I was attending, and a couple
> > of
> > > > > > students were
> > > > > > > already using 386-based machines. Back then, though,
> > even a
> > > > 286
> > > > > > was worth
> > > > > > > about a fortnight's salary for an average professional
> > > > > > (engineer, architect
> > > > > > > etc) which hindered the uptake of the 386.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When the 386sx came out, which was able to use a
> > variant
> > > > of
> > > > > > the less
> > > > > > > complex architecture of the 286-style motherboard, it
> > > > became a
> > > > > > quite viable
> > > > > > > purchase.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm one of the older contributors, I think... 60 this
> > > > year.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Peter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thomas Clayton wrote:
> > > > > > > Dear Veganlex:
> > > > > ...<cut out>...
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas Clayton
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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