Marc Quintin wrote: > Yes I DO hate you ;-) lucky b*****D Ok, 2 out of 3 hate me. Gene? What's your opinion on the subject? Hmm... wonder if I could justify building a 'pit to match the real thing and call it a training tool. I think I could make that happen :) -- Steve mysticz28 at swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in.