[simpits-tech] Requests for measurements - SHAME ON YOU

[Marv De Beque]

Andre,

Much of what you seek is much more intangible than you think.  There are no
F-16 CAD drawings from Lockheed-Martin on the WEB that you can simply pull
down and build an F-16.

Some of that data has been reverse engineered, but for reasons mentioned
before, there are no CAD drawings floating around and what ones are floating
around generally do not agree with each other for one reason or another.
www.xflight.de probably pulled those plans because there were known errors
in the dimensions, not because he is sadistic.

I can tell you from experience that reverse engineering parts, even real
parts, is much more effort than you think and I have a modest set of machine
tools at my fingertips.

While this may seem to be a major headache for you, most of the people I
have met find this to be a fun challenge to unlock.  I understand your
frustration, but the reality is what it is and people are not trying to be
"nasty" or secretive with their plans.  You catch more flies with honey than
vinegar.

Marv



On 1/2/04 3:30 AM, "Andre Breytenbach" <a_breytie at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I am very upset by what I read in this forum and the
> various SimPits webring sites.
> Everyone says thay did it, but does not want to share
> the resulting info. Compete pits built to to better
> than 5mm accuracy shown with a 100 high res pictures
> BUT no measurements or plans published. Yes,
> www.xflight.de shares info, but with built-in
> inaccuracies. Many very long nights of pixel counting
> and I am no closer to real measurements than before.
> He had CAD drawings on his site a few years ago, but
> all gone now - why? I have them on an old backup tape
> but no drive to restore the info!
> Myself and others come up with fresh ideas and get a
> SAM9 up the tailpipe, not helped. Come on people, get
> with the spirit of why this forum was started. Please
> share the nitty-gritty! If you have commercial
> interests that prevent you from sharing the info, tell
> us, just stop the BS.
> 
> I earn less than US$1000 a month, rent, utilities,
> kid's school fees and tranport takes more than half. I
> still want to (and will) build my pit, but there is no
> way I can import any custom replica or original
> panels. EPIC, Sim Instruments, PHIDGETS, you name
> them, too money, programming (windoze), and wiring (6
> miles I heard mentioned) intensive. I know I can do it
> myself with scrap Aluminium, Perspex, stripped CDROMs
> and floppy drives, and engraving done at companies
> that don't have work for their machines. Electronic
> components I must buy, I will buy as I can, but
> research will reduce the wastage.
> 
> If you have real F-16 Panels and is willing to let
> others use them for measurements(without us touching
> them), contact me and I will tell you how to scan them
> on a flat-bed scanner. If you have some free and free
> space on a web-server, let me know so that we can get
> the resulting CAD drawings published for all to use.
> 
> I will start my own Yahoo web-site (very limited
> space)by the 10th Jan at
> http://uk.geocities.com/a_breytie/ where I will share
> all my reasearch and development work. Bookmark it now
> in case I get kicked out of this forum for my harsh
> words towards it's most senior members.
> 
> Lets get on with it people, let's enable the world to
> be filled with F-16 pits.
> 
> If I got it wrong about the people in this forum,
> PROVE IT and I will applologise where and how you
> want.
> 
> Best regards
> Andre SimNut Breytenbach
> Pretoria, South Africa
> a_breytie at yahoo.co.uk
> 
> 
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