[simpits-tech] A-10 replacement

[Mike Brogley]

Along these lines (air platform acquisition):


        Army Leaders Recommend Canceling Comanche Helicopter Program

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Feb2004/n02232004_200402237.html

(Dunno if anyone was building a simpit of one of these - woulda been 
pretty cool.)


Chris Crowley wrote:

>The real crime is going to be the cost. This is the worst value/performance
>point ever. The A10 could take it is cheap to maintain. The JSF is going to
>be very expensive and costly to maintain. Just look at the engine. A single
>engine pushing 40K plus thrust with extremely high temps. Not as survivable
>as the dual engine A10 either. Nor will the JSF have the punch of the A10.
>Its sad and its all about politics.
>Chris
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Brogley [mailto:mikebrogley at ieee.org]
>Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:35 PM
>To: Simulator Cockpit tech list
>Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] A-10 replacement
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>That's exactly why - The Air Force is in the Gee Whiz business. There
>are only two institutional constituencies in the USAF - strategic
>bombers and fighters. There is no structural support for other missions
>like recon or non-heavy mud-movers, and CAS is an even more specialized
>form of moving mud, with the requirement to coordinate and be careful
>where you drop things. The institution was about to obsolete the A-10
>before the first Iraq war in 1991, but it did so well (and the F-16s
>with the 30mm gun pod supposedly going to replace them did so poorly in
>that role) that they were forced to keep (and -gasp- even spend budget
>money upgrading) them.
>
>Now they have a chance to argue that they need a common airframe for the
>sake of economy of operations, plus they get to counter the
>deployability issues with the STOVL (not VTOL) performance of the F-35
>(and btw increase their airframe buy), with the plus that they can
>finally get rid of that damn dedicated Army support airplane that
>doesn't fit with their corporate culture.
>
>What's laughable is that the real reaction to assigning the CAS mission
>to something that can't loiter due to it's supersonic fuel consumption
>(and the lack of tankers) will be moving CAS to long endurance armed
>UAVs, so instead of having USAF pilots working from an A-10 cockpit,
>they'll be working from a shipping container looking at a monitor
>remotely flying a maverick-loaded predator _prop_plane_.
>
>--
>Mike
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>Steve Wilson wrote:
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>>Load 'er up with Mavericks and let loose.  Frankly, I wonder why,
>>though.  The A-10 is only 1/10th as geewhiz as the F-35, and likely
>>far better armored considering the VTOL version's need to stay light.
>>We don't need another supersonic tank killer.  Like the DC-3, the
>>C-130 and the B-52, with the Warthog they achieved near perfection for
>>the role and created the best possible tank killer.
>>
>>Steve W.
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>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    *From:* Justin Messenger <mailto:jjmessenger at yahoo.com>
>>    *To:* Simpits-tech at simpits.org <mailto:Simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>>    *Sent:* Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:53 AM
>>    *Subject:* [simpits-tech] A-10 replacement
>>
>>    > The USAF has announced an intention to aquire
>>    > a quanity of the VTOL version of the F35 JSF
>>    > to replace the aging A10,  in the CAS role.
>>    >
>>    > Source;  Janes Defence.
>>    > MC
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