[simpits-tech] Helicopter in FS2004

Brian Sikkema hangr18 at hotmail.com
Thu Oct 23 10:37:08 PDT 2003


Helicopters DON'T fly... they're just so ugly the ground repels them! :)

Brian - Son of an Army grunt, and seasoned veteran of the chopper/fixed wing
wars
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Bailey" <mattb at rtccom.net>
To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Helicopter in FS2004


> FWIW, I've heard that MSFS's helicopter is a disaster. =O Basically a hack
of
> the fixed-wing model. X-Plane is considered to have just about the best
> helicopter model out there, although it still has its shortcomings. I will
> say that if real helicopters are as hard to fly as X-Plane helicopters, I
can
> understand how they get their reputation! They inherently just don't want
to
> fly!!!!
>
> -Matt Bailey
>
> On Wednesday 22 October 2003 02:09 am, you wrote:
> > I got a member here, he's a real Huey pilot, who also noticed that some
of
> > FS2004 configurations for helo need to be adjusted.  He added that
> > performing autorotation in FS2002 is very similar to real procedures.
> > During a LAN meeting (and other shows we made to the pubic), he compared
> > the configs by showing autorotaion on FS2002 and in FS2004 in the same
helo
> > model.. they are different!
> >
> > Sukit Sittisudjatum
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
> > [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org]On Behalf Of Ido Dekkers Sent:
22
> > October 2003 1:54 PM
> > To: Simulator Cockpit tech list
> > Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Helicopter in FS2004
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > No helo pilot but maybe it really is hard as in 2004 and in 2002 they
made
> > it too simple ?
> >
> > Ido
> >
> >
> >
> >              "Sittisudjatum,
> >              Sukit "
> >              <SukitS at state.gov
To
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> >                                        RE: [simpits-tech] Helicopter in
> >              10/22/2003 08:47          FS2004
> >
> >
> >              Please respond to
> >              Simulator Cockpit
> >                  tech list
> >              <simpits-tech at sim
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Have anyone here tried an emergency landing "Autorotation" for
helicopter
> > (Bell 206) in FS2004 yet?  It was so difficult .. better say impossible
to
> > recover the helo if it fall with idle RPM.  In FS2002, the recovering is
> > possible, and very close to the real thing.
> >
> > Also, I installed a nice model of Bell 205 Huey downloaded from
> > www.hovercontrol.com to test the autorotation, and found that it fell
like
> > a rock.  The procedures I took before performing the autorotaion was
follow
> > the standard huey procedures
> >
> > 1. climbed to above 1,000 ft.
> > 2. Set RPM to idle
> > 3. Descended and maintain 60 knots.
> > 4. Appied back pressure on cyclic to recover the helo at 100 ft. above
> > ground with adding more blade angle (collective).
> > 5. Land safely on ground.
> >
> > Unfortunately, it didn't work in FS2004's Huey.  The similar procedures
can
> > also be applied to FS2002's Bell 206 with successful result.
> >
> > A bit OT, but I believe there must be someone here who stick with flying
> > helicopter (along with building helo pit) noticed the different between
> > FS2002 and FS2004, and can give some advice.  Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Sukit Sittisudjatum
> > Founder, Thai Flight Simulator
> > www.thaiflight.com
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