[simpits-tech] Cougar's Spiking Pot!
Sittisudjatum, Sukit
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:50:03 +0700
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Jay,=20
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Many thanks for your reply, and for the explanation of the HE sensor. I =
also checked the thread about the Cub's mod kit ... but there's no =
pricing and ordering detail. I'll contact Ernie for more detail.
=20
By the way, Marv, how's your stick mod project going?
=20
Sukit Sittisudjatum
Bangkok, Thailand
www.thaiflight.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Fagner [mailto:crease-guard@attbi.com]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 3:12 PM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Cougar's Spiking Pot!
Sukit, I have the HE sensor on my stick (am currently awaiting the =
throttle mod as I am getting pot spikes in the throttle as well!). I =
could go on and on about how great they are (they are worth the money, =
trust me). GET THE MOD!! My stick is as smooth as a baby's bottom and =
absolutely no spiking whatsoever. The HE sensors Cub pilot uses are =
supposedly rated for 15,000,000 cycles (probably live longer that I =
will). Don't waste your time or efforts on crappy pots that you will =
just have to change over and over again. In the long run, the HE =
sensors will be cheaper and save you a lot of headaches. Order both =
mods at once, as I have been waiting about 2-3 months for my throttle =
mod simply because Cub gets a ton of orders. I have two cougars, one of =
which will be completely HE sensors with Ian Johnston's Uber cougar mod =
and the other I am planning on using with Marv's LVDT stick base when he =
gets it done. I am going to have Cub add on a second HE sensor on my =
throttle mod when it's time for the throttle in my pit. Hope this =
helps.
=20
Jay
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org =
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Sittisudjatum, =
Sukit=20
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 1:26 AM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: [simpits-tech] Cougar's Spiking Pot!
=20
Considering the working hours I've been using it, the pots in my Cougar =
set shouldn't have a well-known "spiking" problem! But it happened to =
the pot in my throttle last weekend. I just noticed it when I can't get =
to the idle position when I flew a DC-3 in MSFS2002. Then, I tested it =
in Foxy analyzer software, and accepted that there's a problem.
=20
I checked in the hardware section of the official cougar web pages, and =
saw that there's a Q&A about fixing the spiking pot! Gezzz... this must =
happen to many cougar owners, so they have the Q&A listed. I =
experienced fixing a spiking pot in my F-22 stick (FCLS+TQS) and it went =
well that time, so this shouldn't be a big deal with a small CTS pot. =
But it's not, after deassemble the pot, clean out the dust, putting =
grease, and put them all in the positions.... there's still some =
noticable (and unacceptable) spiking !!!! (It was an unhappy weekend to =
me). I thought I have to check the OEM web site, and see if I can buy =
.. may be 10 pots! as spare parts.
=20
I found the CTS web site, printed out the product catalog, and I even =
found that there's a distributor in Bangkok (a big surprise to me). I =
suddenly called the distributor, a sale person was not very kind. I was =
told that they have some samples for the customers, and the minimum =
order will be as lessas 10,000 pots!!!! Gosh, I need only 10.
=20
FYI: The CTS web site is www.ctscorp.com. You can download the pdf =
technical data from it's product section =
http://www.ctscorp.com/electro/251pot.htm=20
=20
Just a story of my "almost" dead pot to share with the community. I =
would be so glad if anyone can tell the exact model of the pot. My best =
guess would be 251B15F104B5N1
=20
If anyone here can find an electronic supply store where you can buy =
this model, please let me know. Also, have anyone used the Cougar stick =
mod "Hall effect sensor" from a cubpilot? It would be great if you can =
tell how do you like it.
=20
=20
Sukit Sittisudjatum
Bangkok, Thailand
www.thaiflight.com
=20
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<DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
class=3D517412108-03032003>Many thanks for your reply, and for the =
explanation of=20
the HE sensor. I also checked the thread about the Cub's mod kit =
... but=20
there's no pricing and ordering detail. I'll contact Ernie for =
more=20
detail.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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class=3D517412108-03032003>By the way, Marv, how's your stick mod =
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<P><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Joseph=20
Fagner [mailto:crease-guard@attbi.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 03, =
2003=20
3:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B> simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
[simpits-tech] Cougar's Spiking Pot!<BR><BR></FONT></P>
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FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sukit, I =
have the HE=20
sensor on my stick (am currently awaiting the throttle mod as I am =
getting pot=20
spikes in the throttle as well!). I could go on and on about how =
great=20
they are (they are worth the money, trust me). GET THE =
MOD!! My=20
stick is as smooth as a baby’s bottom and absolutely no spiking=20
whatsoever. The HE sensors Cub pilot uses are supposedly rated =
for=20
15,000,000 cycles (probably live longer that I will). =
Don’t waste your=20
time or efforts on crappy pots that you will just have to change over =
and over=20
again. In the long run, the HE sensors will be cheaper and save =
you a=20
lot of headaches. Order both mods at once, as I have been =
waiting about=20
2-3 months for my throttle mod simply because Cub gets a ton of =
orders. =20
I have two cougars, one of which will be completely HE sensors with =
Ian=20
Johnston’s Uber cougar mod and the other I am planning on using =
with Marv’s=20
LVDT stick base when he gets it done. I am going to have Cub add =
on a=20
second HE sensor on my throttle mod when it’s time for the =
throttle in my=20
pit. Hope this helps.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] =
<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of =
</SPAN></B>Sittisudjatum,=20
Sukit <BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
Monday, March=20
03, 2003 1:26 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [simpits-tech] =
Cougar's Spiking=20
Pot!</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Considering the working =
hours I've=20
been using it, the pots in my Cougar set shouldn't have a well-known =
"spiking"=20
problem! But it happened to the pot in my throttle last =
weekend. I=20
just noticed it when I can't get to the idle position when I flew a =
DC-3 in=20
MSFS2002. Then, I tested it in Foxy analyzer software, and =
accepted that=20
there's a problem.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">I checked=20
in the <U>hardware</U> section of the official cougar web pages, and =
saw that=20
there's a Q&A about fixing the spiking pot! Gezzz... this =
must=20
happen to many cougar owners, so they have the Q&A listed. I =
experienced fixing a spiking pot in my F-22 stick (FCLS+TQS) and it =
went well=20
that time, so this shouldn't be a big deal with a small CTS pot. =
But=20
it's not, after deassemble the pot, clean out the dust, putting =
grease, and=20
put them all in the positions.... there's still some=20
noticable (and unacceptable) spiking !!!! (It was an unhappy =
weekend=20
to me). I thought I have to check the OEM web site, and see if I =
can buy=20
.. may be 10 pots! as spare parts.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">I found=20
the CTS web site, printed out the product catalog, and I even found =
that=20
there's a distributor in Bangkok (a big surprise to me). I =
suddenly=20
called the distributor, a sale person was not very kind. I was =
told that=20
they have some samples for the customers, and the minimum order will =
be as=20
lessas 10,000 pots!!!! Gosh, I need only 10.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><SPAN=20
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<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">FYI: The=20
CTS web site is <A =
href=3D"http://www.ctscorp.com">www.ctscorp.com</A>. =20
You can download the pdf technical data from it's product section <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.ctscorp.com/electro/251pot.htm">http://www.ctscorp.com=
/electro/251pot.htm</A>=20
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><SPAN=20
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<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Just a=20
story of my "almost" dead pot to share with the community. I =
would be so=20
glad if anyone can tell the exact model of the pot. My best =
guess would=20
be <U>251B15F104B5N1</U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
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size=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">If anyone=20
here can find an electronic supply store where you can buy this =
model,=20
please let me know. Also, have anyone used the Cougar stick mod =
"Hall=20
effect sensor" from a cubpilot? It would be great if you can =
tell how do=20
you like it.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
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Thailand</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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