[simpits-tech] Leaving for EHAM2003
Erwin Neyt
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:49:15 +0200
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I can answer some questions:
The FSIS system will be priced at EUR 395, this includes the software =
and the ICPU.
The instruments will start at EUR 205 (single axis), and roughly EUR 50 =
per extra axis.
IMPORTANT: these are preliminary prices. The prices will be finalized =
for each instrument as soon as it become available for shipping.
We did not compromise quality and fidelity, so we choose the most =
perfect solution, and still tried to keep the pricing as attractive as =
possible. I for one would not want an instument in my pit which looked =
or performed anything else than the real thing.
We will, besides the civil ones (Cessna, 7X7, Airbus etc.) do the full =
F-16 block 50. We will also offer a kit for people who want to retrofit =
an existing instrument. In fact we will do _any_ instrument we (or the =
customer) have specs for.=20
About F4 Glass Pro, I bought a OGL library and hired a professional =
programmer to aid me. F4 Glass Pro will be sold around EUR 200. F4 Glass =
(2D version) will always remain freeware.
Erwin Neyt
Sim-Instruments bv.=20
F-16 Development
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mike Williams=20
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:07 PM
Subject: RE:[simpits-tech] Leaving for EHAM2003
Excellent Erwin!!
I know there are several of us looking for this solution to our =
viper pits and the timing is great, seems there are several of us that I =
know of,
at about the same stage of building and instruments/interfacing will =
be in the near future for all of us. Could you elaborate on what =
instruments you will be making for
the Viper, in what order, price range. I know that's asking a lot, but =
tell us what you can, maybe it would influence others to wait on =
sim-instruments items
versus investing in other solutions.
Looking forward to the F4 Glass Pro, will this be freeware also? I =
would defiantly pay for it if not. Are there any new features in the Pro =
version we don't know about? =20
Thanks for the update, I for one welcome info like this from =
developers being posted to the list.
also, very good report.
Mike Williams
-------Original Message-------
From: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:09:22 AM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Leaving for EHAM2003 [virus checked]
Here's a report on last weekend's event EHAM 2003.
This weekend was organized by FlightDeck Solutions
(www.flightdecksolutions.com) and the public was mainly MSFS users
building their 7X7 or Airbus pits. It was two days of presentation =
about
all the aspects of building a simulator platform, really interesting
stuff was presented.
_switching to plug mode_=20
It was also my first appearance as the new member of the =
Sim-Instruments
team and we presented our new FSIS system with some prototype
instruments. People were totally amazed about the fidelity of these
instruments and we got real confirmation that we have a product you =
all
have been waiting for. The concept of this system is so unique and
require so much explaining that even after an hour long presentation =
by
Marc and Jim, people still could barely grasp the possibilities of =
this
new system. I too (working on the development of the system) keep
finding new possibilities every day. We will be updating our web =
site
(www.sim-instruments.com) shortly to reflect the latest =
developments.
The coming months we'll be releasing a variety of instruments (incl. =
the
F-16 ones).
The problem is now how to get the functionality of the system =
described.
There are just to much possibilities. It will not only support our
instruments (with build in controllers) but also other controllers =
to
attach to input/output devices (like switches, rotaries, lamps, =
leds, or
even existing real instruments). almost all the hard- and software =
is
done in-house so we can implement very quickly any custom =
requirements
for a not yet supported system. Also FSIS will support MSFS and =
Falcon4,
so no programming or scripting required.
The instruments are also indescribable, just have to see them. We =
are
using custom steppers which give an ultimate smooth motion (4000 =
steps
per revolution) and are extremely quiet. The instrument does not
directly 'display' a value as it is read from the sim. These =
value(s)
are first fed into a software model (which runs inside the =
instrument
controller) before it is translated to actual needle motion. This =
allows
us to give the needle the exact look of the real instrument, like
acceleration/deceleration and/or other mechanical characteristics of =
the
needle. Also the model can take into account values not available by =
the
sim. For example, the ASI read the KIAS from the sim, but can also =
read
values like static pressure or pitot icing (from an external fault
system), and take these into account as well (before showing it). =
This
means that faults introduced into the system will cascade to all the
instruments affected, automatically. All these instruments are
plug&play. no configuration, calibration or programming required.
We are still in full development (although the prototypes are fully
operational), so it will still take a few months before we can =
deliver.
_leaving plug mode_
I also showed my new version of the almost finished F4 Glass (& F4 =
Data
Mirror) and I will release them in two weeks. Also I plan to do a
(hardware-accelerated) 3D OpenGL version, called F4 Glass Pro..
All in all a very exiting weekend for me, and I hope you forgive my
shameless plug of our new products. But in my opinion this new =
system
will really be something a lot of pitbuilders have been waiting for.
cheers,
Erwin Neyt
Sim-Instruments bv
F-16 Development.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can answer some =
questions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The FSIS system will be priced at EUR =
395, this=20
includes the software and the ICPU.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The instruments will start at EUR 205 =
(single=20
axis), and roughly EUR 50 per extra axis.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>IMPORTANT: these are preliminary =
prices. The prices=20
will be finalized for each instrument as soon as it become available for =
shipping.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We did not compromise quality and =
fidelity, so we=20
choose the most perfect solution, and still tried to keep the =
pricing as=20
attractive as possible. I for one would not want an instument in my pit =
which=20
looked or performed anything else than the real thing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We will, besides the civil ones =
(Cessna, 7X7,=20
Airbus etc.) do the full F-16 block 50. We will also offer a kit for =
people who=20
want to retrofit an existing instrument. In fact we will do _any_ =
instrument we=20
(or the customer) have specs for. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>About F4 Glass Pro, I bought a OGL =
library and=20
hired a professional programmer to aid me. F4 Glass Pro will be =
sold around=20
EUR 200. F4 Glass (2D version) will always remain freeware.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erwin Neyt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sim-Instruments bv. <BR>F-16=20
Development</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dmikewilliams3@comcast.net=20
href=3D"mailto:mikewilliams3@comcast.net">Mike Williams</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dsimpits-tech@simpits.org=20
href=3D"mailto:simpits-tech@simpits.org">simpits-tech@simpits.org</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 10, 2003 =
10:07=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE:[simpits-tech] =
Leaving for=20
EHAM2003</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D029345219-10062003>Excellent Erwin!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D029345219-10062003> I know there are =
several of=20
us looking for this solution to our viper pits and the timing is =
great, seems=20
there are several of us that I know of,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>at=20
about the same stage of building and instruments/interfacing will be =
in the=20
near future for all of us. Could you elaborate on what instruments you =
will be=20
making for</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>the=20
Viper, in what order, price range. I know that's asking a =
lot, but=20
tell us what you can, maybe it would influence others to wait=20
on sim-instruments items</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>versus investing in other solutions.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Looking forward to the F4 Glass Pro, will this be freeware =
also? I=20
would defiantly pay for it if not. Are there any new features in the =
Pro=20
version we don't know about? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Thanks for the update, I for one welcome info like this from =
developers=20
being posted to the list.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>also, very good report.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Mike=20
Williams</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D029345219-10062003></SPAN> </DIV>
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class=3D029345219-10062003> </SPAN><EM>-------Original=20
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<DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> =
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[simpits-tech] Leaving for EHAM2003 [virus checked]</DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Here's a report on last weekend's event EHAM 2003.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This weekend was organized by FlightDeck Solutions</DIV>
<DIV>(<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.flightdecksolutions.com/">www.flightdecksolutions.com<=
/A>)=20
and the public was mainly MSFS users</DIV>
<DIV>building their 7X7 or Airbus pits. It was two days of =
presentation=20
about</DIV>
<DIV>all the aspects of building a simulator platform, really=20
interesting</DIV>
<DIV>stuff was presented.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>_switching to plug mode_ </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It was also my first appearance as the new member of the=20
Sim-Instruments</DIV>
<DIV>team and we presented our new FSIS system with some =
prototype</DIV>
<DIV>instruments. People were totally amazed about the fidelity of=20
these</DIV>
<DIV>instruments and we got real confirmation that we have a product =
you=20
all</DIV>
<DIV>have been waiting for. The concept of this system is so unique=20
and</DIV>
<DIV>require so much explaining that even after an hour long =
presentation=20
by</DIV>
<DIV>Marc and Jim, people still could barely grasp the possibilities =
of=20
this</DIV>
<DIV>new system. I too (working on the development of the system) =
keep</DIV>
<DIV>finding new possibilities every day. We will be updating our =
web=20
site</DIV>
<DIV>(<A =
href=3D"http://www.sim-instruments.com/">www.sim-instruments.com</A>)=20
shortly to reflect the latest developments.</DIV>
<DIV>The coming months we'll be releasing a variety of instruments =
(incl.=20
the</DIV>
<DIV>F-16 ones).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The problem is now how to get the functionality of the system=20
described.</DIV>
<DIV>There are just to much possibilities. It will not only support=20
our</DIV>
<DIV>instruments (with build in controllers) but also other =
controllers=20
to</DIV>
<DIV>attach to input/output devices (like switches, rotaries, lamps, =
leds,=20
or</DIV>
<DIV>even existing real instruments). almost all the hard- and =
software=20
is</DIV>
<DIV>done in-house so we can implement very quickly any custom=20
requirements</DIV>
<DIV>for a not yet supported system. Also FSIS will support MSFS and =
Falcon4,</DIV>
<DIV>so no programming or scripting required.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The instruments are also indescribable, just have to see them. =
We=20
are</DIV>
<DIV>using custom steppers which give an ultimate smooth motion =
(4000=20
steps</DIV>
<DIV>per revolution) and are extremely quiet. The instrument does =
not</DIV>
<DIV>directly 'display' a value as it is read from the sim. These=20
value(s)</DIV>
<DIV>are first fed into a software model (which runs inside the=20
instrument</DIV>
<DIV>controller) before it is translated to actual needle motion. =
This=20
allows</DIV>
<DIV>us to give the needle the exact look of the real instrument, =
like</DIV>
<DIV>acceleration/deceleration and/or other mechanical =
characteristics of=20
the</DIV>
<DIV>needle. Also the model can take into account values not =
available by=20
the</DIV>
<DIV>sim. For example, the ASI read the KIAS from the sim, but can =
also=20
read</DIV>
<DIV>values like static pressure or pitot icing (from an external=20
fault</DIV>
<DIV>system), and take these into account as well (before showing =
it).=20
This</DIV>
<DIV>means that faults introduced into the system will cascade to =
all=20
the</DIV>
<DIV>instruments affected, automatically. All these instruments =
are</DIV>
<DIV>plug&play. no configuration, calibration or programming=20
required.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We are still in full development (although the prototypes are=20
fully</DIV>
<DIV>operational), so it will still take a few months before we can=20
deliver.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>_leaving plug mode_</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I also showed my new version of the almost finished F4 Glass =
(& F4=20
Data</DIV>
<DIV>Mirror) and I will release them in two weeks. Also I plan to do =
a</DIV>
<DIV>(hardware-accelerated) 3D OpenGL version, called F4 Glass =
Pro..</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>All in all a very exiting weekend for me, and I hope you =
forgive=20
my</DIV>
<DIV>shameless plug of our new products. But in my opinion this new=20
system</DIV>
<DIV>will really be something a lot of pitbuilders have been waiting =
for.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>cheers,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Erwin Neyt</DIV>
<DIV>Sim-Instruments bv</DIV>
<DIV>F-16 Development.</DIV>
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