[simpits-tech] F-16 Force Sensitive Side Stick Update:

Jean-Yves SURFIN' simpits-tech@simpits.org
Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:24:46 +0200


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Yes,  Yes   Ah Yes=85
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It=92s absoluty superb.   A great plug and play stuff.
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Genius Marv !
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Best regards,
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De : simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] De la part de Marv De Beque
Envoy=E9 : dimanche 1 juin 2003 20:42
=C0 : simpits-tech@simpits.org
Objet : [simpits-tech] F-16 Force Sensitive Side Stick Update:
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Well, after a lot of detail I have the first FULLY WORKING prototype
with the control box completed. =20

I have finally flown it in Falcon 4 and was a little concerned about the
roll axis since it seems to take a lot of yanking to get full deflection
on the DVM, but I was wrong, it flies like a dream!  This baby rocks!

I had it bench mounted so it is not in the actual position it would be
in a cockpit.  Still, it is everything I had hoped for and more.  It is
remarkably stable and accurate.  It seems easy enough to steer the
aircraft where you want it with precision.  It takes some getting used
to since the stick forces are much higher than a standard PC joystick,
but welcome to reality.  I am very pleased.

The external control box allows each axis (roll and pitch) to be
adjusted for trim and gain.  Gain can be either user adjusted by a knob
for each axis or a center switch can be activated to place the gain in a
calibrated state so the acting forces required for full defection are
the same as the real aircraft (F-16).

I mounted the Cougar's base PCB right into the control box.   This way I
don't need the base.  Everything just plugs into the back, including the
rudders and TQS.  That may be the right way to do it for production
since it solves some logistical problems and it is a whole lot cleaner
and robust.

I am only going to have a few hours to play, ah, I mean test, this
puppy.  It ships Monday for beta testing.  Sorry guys, the US Air Force
has asked for the first shot at it and I see it as my duty to give it
up.  :-/  I am not joking, they really are going to evaluate it this
month.

Meanwhile, I will be getting accurate cost quotes together from machine
shops and I need to speak to a bunch of attorneys regarding my patent
rights. =20

I know you guys are drooling for price and availability, but there are
things that need to be done first.  The good news is that the dream is
still alive and kicking! =20

You can see a picture at:

http://www.simpits.org/fileproc/files/F16_SideSick.JPG

Regards,

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>De&nbsp;:</span></b>
simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] =
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>De la part de</span></b> Marv De Beque<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Envoy=E9&nbsp;:</span></b> dimanche =
1 juin 2003
20:42<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>=C0&nbsp;:</span></b> =
simpits-tech@simpits.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Objet&nbsp;:</span></b> =
[simpits-tech] F-16
Force Sensitive Side Stick Update:</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><tt><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Well, after a lot =
of detail I
have the first FULLY WORKING prototype with the control box completed. =
&nbsp;</span></font></tt><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">I have finally flown it in Falcon 4 and =
was a
little concerned about the roll axis since it seems to take a lot of =
yanking to
get full deflection on the DVM, but I was wrong, it flies like a dream!
&nbsp;This baby rocks!</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">I had it bench mounted so it is not in =
the actual
position it would be in a cockpit. &nbsp;Still, it is everything I had =
hoped
for and more. &nbsp;It is remarkably stable and accurate. &nbsp;It seems =
easy
enough to steer the aircraft where you want it with precision. &nbsp;It =
takes
some getting used to since the stick forces are much higher than a =
standard PC
joystick, but welcome to reality. &nbsp;I am very =
pleased.</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">The external control box allows each axis =
(roll
and pitch) to be adjusted for trim and gain. &nbsp;Gain can be either =
user
adjusted by a knob for each axis or a center switch can be activated to =
place
the gain in a calibrated state so the acting forces required for full =
defection
are the same as the real aircraft (F-16).</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">I mounted the Cougar's base PCB right =
into the
control box. &nbsp;&nbsp;This way I don't need the base. =
&nbsp;Everything just
plugs into the back, including the rudders and TQS. &nbsp;That may be =
the right
way to do it for production since it solves some logistical problems and =
it is
a whole lot cleaner and robust.</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">I am only going to have a few hours to =
play, ah, I
mean test, this puppy. &nbsp;It ships Monday for beta testing. =
&nbsp;Sorry
guys, the US Air Force has asked for the first shot at it and I see it =
as my
duty to give it up. &nbsp;:-/ &nbsp;I am not joking, they really are =
going to
evaluate it this month.</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">Meanwhile, I will be getting accurate =
cost quotes
together from machine shops and I need to speak to a bunch of attorneys
regarding my patent rights. &nbsp;</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">I know you guys are drooling for price =
and
availability, but there are things that need to be done first. &nbsp;The =
good
news is that the dream is still alive and kicking! =
&nbsp;</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">You can see a picture at:</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier =
New">http://www.simpits.org/fileproc/files/F16_SideSick.JPG</font></tt><b=
r>
<br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">Regards,</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">Marv</font></tt></span></font> =
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