[simpits-tech] Motion...

Craig Rochester simpits-tech@simpits.org
Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:38:01 -0500


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This whole area of motion simulation and "force cueing" sure ain't easy.  My current approach is to integrate
the following elements for immersion:

  a.. Head contraption that contains HMD/headtracking(6-DOF roll,pitch, yaw) and "helmet loading" 3-DOF(x,y,z)
  b.. G-suit - sim --> electronic pressure regulator --> g-suit
  c.. G-seat- butt and back inflatable sections to give acceleration, roll, and pitch cues
  d.. High frequency transducer (woofer) for turbulence, wheel vibration, damage vibration etc...
  e.. Maybe a motion platform with ??? axes; if I can figure out the theory and if it's useful for combat
aircraft.
I've got the G-suit working with Falcon4 and have done some testing of the helmet loading in one axis -->
promising.  As mentioned, the latency and integration of the various cues will be critical to success: no sim
sickness and believability. :)

Craig R.


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[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Roy Coates
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 8:59 AM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Motion...


On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Craig Rochester wrote:

> Sending just the pitch, roll, and yaw data directly to a motion platform
> does not produce the correct motion cues for real flight.

You can get away with limited motion for something like a big fat heavy,
but imagine what you need to do to simulate a half dozen fast rolls in an
F-22 with a roll-rate of over 360'/sec !

Roy.


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  <LI><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>G-suit - sim --&gt; electronic =
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  <LI><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>G-seat- butt and back inflatable =
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Falcon4&nbsp;and have done some testing of the helmet loading in one =
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promising.&nbsp; As mentioned, the latency and integration of the =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Craig R.</FONT></DIV>
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