[simpits-tech] F-16 parts
Jonas Frazier
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:26:31 -0700
I'm not going to rip on the AF, because my dad was a pilot in both the Navy
and AF. None the less, the pilots of all nations, and of all the branches
do their duty to the fullest extent. I think that this is what needs to be
observed. I was in the marines. every recruit that I went through with, and
then every marine that I went through MOS school until I washed out, where
all wiliing to give their lives for their duty. I don't like this rivalry
stuff, men on both sides die for their homeland, and families,
reguardless of what they think of the cause, or thier leader. Like the
Germans. My grandfather was in both World Wars. He did want not be fighting
for the cause, but was there for his family. He didn't like Hitler, or the
Nazis, but still did his duty as a young and healthy man. he stood up to
the nazis, but wasn't killed because he was a hero of the First World War.
He did his duty. I wish just because that one nations leader is messed up in
the head, doesn't mean that they are all bad people. Believe me, I've been
on the receiving end of the biggitry, and unintelligence from People.
Thinking I'm a Nazi because I am German, of the fact that people in the
past of my country screwed up
Sorry about this.
SEMPER FI! to all you Marines.
Jonas Frazier
>From: "Akin, Keenan L" <keenan.l.akin@boeing.com>
>Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>To: "'simpits-tech@simpits.org'" <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
>Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:58:53 -0600
>
>That's not to suggest that 30+ year old aircraft are necessarily obsolete
>(i.e., B-52). However, carrier-based aircraft see very frequent and severe
>load cycles in the course of their lives (not counting combat flight
>maneuver loads). Air Force weenies* with miles of runway and flared
>landings can keep their planes airshow fresh for years longer than Naval
>Aviators who routinely crash into ships, only to be violently catapulted
>off
>the deck moments later.
>
>*meant with great respect. No offense to our intrepid Air Force folks. :)
>
>Keenan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jonas Frazier [mailto:spitpilot40@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:09 AM
>To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
>
>
>
>Well, I guess that you're right. After some 30 years of service, it had to
>be retired.
>Jonas
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Akin, Keenan L" <keenan.l.akin@boeing.com>
> >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> >To: "'simpits-tech@simpits.org'" <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:04:23 -0600
> >
> >At the risk of being perceived as biased (I work on the F/A-18 program),
> >the
> >A-6 was retired primarily due to age associated maintenance costs. It
>was
> >definitely one of the great bomb trucks (along with the A-7).
> >
> >It is way too early to assume that the JSF will replace anything (can you
> >say F-22?).
> >
> >It will be tough to replace the A-10 with anything other than another
>A-10.
> >
> >Keenan
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jonas Frazier [mailto:spitpilot40@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:37 AM
> >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> >
> >
> >HI:
> >The military is all ways replacing the aircraft before they diserve to be
> >retired. I know what you're saying. The A-10 was designed to get in too
> >close for comfort as far as other aircraft are concerned. It can do all
> >most
> >
> >any thing, except go fast, and be a fighter. The A-6 was retired to
>early
> >as well. Some of the guys that flew the A-6 with my dad in the Navy,
>that
> >are flying the hornet, said that the Navy is now regretting them
>retiering
> >the ol intruder. By the way, my dad was in VA-128 (golden intruders) and
> >VA-75 (sunday punchers). Take care. Maybe the hog will still be around
>for
> >a
> >
> >while longer. It could be the next B-52.
> >Jonas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Chris Crowley" <ccrowley@mccrowley.com>
> > >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:36:07 -0500
> > >
> > >Jonus,
> > >I A-10 has no equivalent now or in the future. It is essentially a tank
> > >buster designed around that 30mm monster canon. It seems to me that the
> > >F-16
> > >has range and carry limitations as compared to the F-15E (which also
>has
> >no
> > >equal in the western world). However, It does carry bombs and does CAS,
> > >perhaps not as well as the A-10, but it does that role as well as many
> > >others. The JSF will replace the conventional Hornet and work
>alongside
> > >the
> > >Super SIZED Hornet (which replaces the F-14 <GRIN>) until it retires.
> > >
> > >v/r
> > >
> > >Chris Crowley
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
> > >[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Jonas Frazier
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:18 PM
> > >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > >
> > >
> > >I think that the ol' hog can't easily be replaced. My dad went to A-10
> > >flight school, didn't graduate for reasons unknown, but he said that
>the
> > >hog was a rugged and very reliable attack. The hog is like the panavia
> > >Tornado. Both excellent aircraft in their roles. Besides, the F-16
> >wasn't
> > >designed to have bombs strapped under it's wings, can't opperate from
> > >unconventional airfiels, or can't do close air support.
> > >I know the Navy will be getting them. I heard the wan't to use 'em to
>use
> > >along side with the Hornet. It's just like the A-6, when the F/A-18
>was
> > >entered into service. Thanks.
> > >Jonas
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > > >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 02:07:35 +0000
> > > >
> > > >As I understand it, JSF will be replacing the F-16, A-10, & AV-8B
>(And
> > > >possibly others, don't know about Navy so much). F-22 will be
>replacing
> > >the
> > > >Beagles. Of course this is all in the very distant future, in reality
> >it
> > > >will take a long time to phase out all of these aircraft, and I'm
> >really
> > > >sceptical that the JSF can take over the A-10's role.
> > > >
> > > >Brian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----Original Message Follows----
> > > >From: "Jonas Frazier" <spitpilot40@hotmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > > >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:58:50 -0700
> > > >
> > > >Is the USAF replacing them with the F-22s', or the JSF (Joint Strike
> > > >Fighter)? I think that the JSF is the first fighter since the F-4 to
>be
> > > >used by the Navy, Marines, and Air Force. Thanks.
> > > >Jonas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> > > >>Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > >>To: Simpits <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > >>Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > > >>Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:47:50 +0000 (GMT)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Given that the USAF are using F-16's now for target practice, don't
> > >bother
> > > >>with Ebay for parts.. just hang around the air-bases with a hard-hat
> >and
> >
> > >a
> > > >>large basket :)
> > > >>
> > > >>Roy.
> > > >>
> > > >>
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