[simpits-tech] F-16 parts

Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:58:53 -0600

That's not to suggest that 30+ year old aircraft are necessarily obsolete
(i.e., B-52).  However, carrier-based aircraft see very frequent and severe
load cycles in the course of their lives (not counting combat flight
maneuver loads).  Air Force weenies* with miles of runway and flared
landings can keep their planes airshow fresh for years longer than Naval
Aviators who routinely crash into ships, only to be violently catapulted off
the deck moments later.

*meant with great respect. No offense to our intrepid Air Force folks. :)

Keenan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonas Frazier [mailto:spitpilot40@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:09 AM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts

Well, I guess that you're right. After some 30 years of service,  it had to 
be retired.
Jonas

>From: "Akin, Keenan L" <keenan.l.akin@boeing.com>
>Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>To: "'simpits-tech@simpits.org'" <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
>Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:04:23 -0600
>
>At the risk of being perceived as biased (I work on the F/A-18 program), 
>the
>A-6 was retired primarily due to age associated maintenance costs.  It was
>definitely one of the great bomb trucks (along with the A-7).
>
>It is way too early to assume that the JSF will replace anything (can you
>say F-22?).
>
>It will be tough to replace the A-10 with anything other than another A-10.
>
>Keenan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jonas Frazier [mailto:spitpilot40@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:37 AM
>To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
>
>
>HI:
>The military is all ways replacing the aircraft before they diserve to be
>retired. I know what you're saying. The A-10 was designed to get in too
>close for comfort as far as other aircraft are concerned. It can do all 
>most
>
>any thing,  except go fast,  and be a fighter. The A-6 was retired to early
>as well. Some of the guys that flew the A-6 with my dad in the Navy,  that
>are flying the hornet,  said that the Navy is now regretting them retiering
>the ol intruder. By the way,  my dad was in VA-128 (golden intruders) and
>VA-75 (sunday punchers). Take care. Maybe the hog will still be around for 
>a
>
>while longer. It could be the next B-52.
>Jonas
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Chris Crowley" <ccrowley@mccrowley.com>
> >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> >To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:36:07 -0500
> >
> >Jonus,
> >I A-10 has no equivalent now or in the future. It is essentially a tank
> >buster designed around that 30mm monster canon. It seems to me that the
> >F-16
> >has range and carry limitations as compared to the F-15E (which also has 
>no
> >equal in the western world). However, It does carry bombs and does CAS,
> >perhaps not as well as the A-10, but it does that role as well as many
> >others.  The JSF will replace the conventional Hornet and work alongside
> >the
> >Super SIZED Hornet (which replaces the F-14 <GRIN>) until it retires.
> >
> >v/r
> >
> >Chris Crowley
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
> >[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Jonas Frazier
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:18 PM
> >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> >
> >
> >I think that the ol' hog can't easily be replaced. My dad went to A-10
> >flight school, didn't graduate for reasons unknown,  but he said that the
> >hog was a rugged and very reliable attack. The hog is like the panavia
> >Tornado. Both excellent aircraft in their roles. Besides,  the F-16 
>wasn't
> >designed to have bombs strapped under it's wings,  can't opperate from
> >unconventional airfiels,  or can't do close air support.
> >I know the Navy will be getting them. I heard the wan't to use 'em to use
> >along side with the Hornet. It's just like the A-6,  when the F/A-18 was
> >entered into service. Thanks.
> >Jonas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 02:07:35 +0000
> > >
> > >As I understand it, JSF will be replacing the F-16, A-10, & AV-8B (And
> > >possibly others, don't know about Navy so much). F-22 will be replacing
> >the
> > >Beagles. Of course this is all in the very distant future, in reality 
>it
> > >will take a long time to phase out all of these aircraft, and I'm 
>really
> > >sceptical that the JSF can take over the A-10's role.
> > >
> > >Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----Original Message Follows----
> > >From: "Jonas Frazier" <spitpilot40@hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:58:50 -0700
> > >
> > >Is the USAF replacing them with the F-22s',  or the JSF (Joint Strike
> > >Fighter)? I think that the JSF is the first fighter since the F-4 to be
> > >used by the Navy,  Marines,  and Air Force. Thanks.
> > >Jonas
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> > >>Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >>To: Simpits <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > >>Subject: [simpits-tech] F-16 parts
> > >>Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:47:50 +0000 (GMT)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Given that the USAF are using F-16's now for target practice, don't
> >bother
> > >>with Ebay for parts.. just hang around the air-bases with a hard-hat 
>and
>
> >a
> > >>large basket :)
> > >>
> > >>Roy.
> > >>
> > >>
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