[simpits-tech] May the Force Feedback be with you...

Keenan Akin simpits-tech@simpits.org
Sat, 08 Feb 2003 20:26:56 -0600 

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True.  But I was thinking that this was a good balance between absolute 
realism and complexity.

Keenan

Matt Bailey wrote:

>The thing is, in real life, control pressure increases as the control device 
>is moved further from center.
>
>	-Matt Bailey
>
>On Saturday 08 February 2003 19:14, you wrote:
>
>>Ken,
>>
>>What if you used a variable pressure regulator (sensing airspeed) to
>>supply the closed cylinder?  That way, the presure that you would have
>>to push against with the stick would only vary with airspeed, not stick
>>position.
>>
>>Keenan
>>
>>Ken Schlote wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>I woke up this morning and was thinking of some comments for this
>>>problem of trim and centering the stick. Matt has said it well. My
>>>comment for trim was going to be the same. As for the closed cylinder
>>>I'm not so sure. If the cylinder is closed the movement of the shaft
>>>will increase the pressure to a point were you can't move the shaft.
>>>The cylinder will need to be big so the amount of movement won't
>>>increase the pressure much. If the cylinder is attached to a big
>>>chamber(and maybe this is what you are thinking Matt) then the
>>>movement of the cylinder won't be noticed. This system will also need
>>>two cylinders per axis.
>>>
>>>My idea may work, use an innertube around a circular disk (attached to
>>>the stick) inside a retaining ring. The pressure would be controlled
>>>the same way but when you move the stick the disk would press on the
>>>innertube and you would feel the pressure. The air would simply move
>>>to the otherside of the tube and the pressure would remain the same.
>>>The stick would self center because the tube would go back the the
>>>orginal shape. This would be the same pressure in all directions.Trim
>>>would be just moving the tube assembly to a different center.
>>>
>>>Any thoughts or comments?
>>>
>>>Ken
>>>
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True. &nbsp;But I was thinking that this was a good balance between absolute realism
and complexity.<br>
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Keenan<br>
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Matt Bailey wrote:<br>
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  <pre wrap="">The thing is, in real life, control pressure increases as the control device <br>is moved further from center.<br><br>	-Matt Bailey<br><br>On Saturday 08 February 2003 19:14, you wrote:<br></pre>
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    <pre wrap="">Ken,<br><br>What if you used a variable pressure regulator (sensing airspeed) to<br>supply the closed cylinder?  That way, the presure that you would have<br>to push against with the stick would only vary with airspeed, not stick<br>position.<br><br>Keenan<br><br>Ken Schlote wrote:<br></pre>
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      <pre wrap="">Hi All,<br><br>I woke up this morning and was thinking of some comments for this<br>problem of trim and centering the stick. Matt has said it well. My<br>comment for trim was going to be the same. As for the closed cylinder<br>I'm not so sure. If the cylinder is closed the movement of the shaft<br>will increase the pressure to a point were you can't move the shaft.<br>The cylinder will need to be big so the amount of movement won't<br>increase the pressure much. If the cylinder is attached to a big<br>chamber(and maybe this is what you are thinking Matt) then the<br>movement of the cylinder won't be noticed. This system will also need<br>two cylinders per axis.<br><br>My idea may work, use an innertube around a circular disk (attached to<br>the stick) inside a retaining ring. The pressure would be controlled<br>the same way but when you move the stick the disk would press on the<br>innertube and you would feel the pressure. The air would simply move<br>to 
the otherside of the tube and the pressure would remain the same.<br>The stick would self center because the tube would go back the the<br>orginal shape. This would be the same pressure in all directions.Trim<br>would be just moving the tube assembly to a different center.<br><br>Any thoughts or comments?<br><br>Ken<br></pre>
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