[simpits-tech] PT Quest about MIG29

[Frank Riedel]

Thx Guys !

Fly well
Frank

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Brogley" <mikebrogley at ieee.org>
To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] PT Quest about MIG29


> Ah, the power of Google.
>
> In addition to any previous MiG-29s that the U.S. government acquired
> through "other means" and not publicly acknowledged (plus any the German
> government have over here from those they inherited from the East German
> airforce), in 1997 the U.S. bought 21 nuclear delivery capable MiG-29s
> from Moldova so they would not go to any country whose name starts with
> the letter "I". From the Federation of American Scientists web site:
>
>     The US Department of Defense of the United States of America and the
>     Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Moldova reached an agreement
>     to implement the Cooperative Threat Reduction accord signed on June
>     23, 1997, in Moldova. The Pentagon pounced on the planes after
>     learning Iran had inspected the jets and expressed an interest in
>     adding them to their inventory. Although Iran already flies the
>     less-capable Fulcrum A, it doesn't own any of the more advanced
>     C-models. Of the 21 Fulcrums the United States bought, 14 are the
>     frontline Fulcrum C's, which contain an active radar jammer in its
>     spine, six older A's and one B-model two-seat trainer. This
>     agreement authorized the United States Government to purchase
>     nuclear-capable MiG-29 fighter planes from the Government of
>     Moldova. This is a joint effort by both Governments to ensure that
>     these dual-use military weapons do not fall into the hands of rogue
>     states. From Oct. 20 to Nov. 2, 1997, loadmasters and aerial port
>     experts squeezed two MiGs apiece, sans wings and tails, into the
>     cargo holds of C-17 Globemaster III transports from Charleston Air
>     Force Base, S.C. The Charleston airlifters delivered the MiGs to the
>     National Air Intelligence Center at Wright-Patterson AFB near
>     Dayton, Ohio. If the NAIC can discover how the Fulcrum works, Air
>     Force pilots might gain an edge if they face the Fulcrum in future
>     combat.
>
> Direct link:
>
> http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/mig-29.htm
>
> I remember duelling leaks at the time, with the dissimilar aircraft
> training community salivating over an entire squadrom of MiG-29s for
> adversary Red-Flag/Top-Gun work, and the bureaucrats stomping their feet
> firmly saying no way will we fly these ourselves. There is obviously a
> supportability issue - though the Luftwaffe seems to not be having many
> problems. I'm sure the MiG folks would love a US-currency spares and
> support contract from the U.S. DoD.
> --
> Mike
>
> Brian Sikkema wrote:
>
> >Yes, but I'm not sure if they ever use them (ie for Agressor work).
> >
> >I don't know if we had any before this, but I do remember a few years
back
> >the US bought up I believe 6 of them. The funny part is, we didn't buy
them
> >because we wanted them, we bought them to keep them out of enemy hands. I
> >can't remember who was selling them, but we just wanted to make sure they
> >didn't go to anyone we didn't want to have them.
> >
> >I also remember that when we got them there was talk of using them for an
> >Agressor squadron, but I don't know if it ever happened. I'm also not
sure
> >if they were A's or C's. I'd have to look it up.
> >
> >Brian
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Frank Riedel" <frank at rezultat.dk>
> >To: "Simulator Cockpit tech list" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 10:03 AM
> >Subject: [simpits-tech] PT Quest about MIG29
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi all
> >>Do USA airforce have MIG 29 ??
> >>
> >>Frank
> >>
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