At 12:03 24/09/2002 +0800, you wrote: >Australia erradicated this problem by doing the following thing : > >1 Teaching there pilots to land gently, and not bang the sh*t out of there aircraft . The problem with that approach, Ben, is that a carrier landing is a (barely) controlled crash. So, Australia's approach to this problem was elegant in it's simplicity, scrap our aircraft carrier. Peter