[simpits-tech] F-16 Force Transducer Side Stick - Update....

Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:43:11 -0400

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<div>That $ound$ well within=
 rea$on.&nbsp; ;-)&nbsp; As for the integration of the=
 transducers, would it not be better to translate their output to=
 something that could interface directly with the Cougar's=
 potentiometer inputs on it's circuit card?&nbsp; I can just=
 imagine trying to sort out the Coug's multiple axis inputs under=
 Windoze with the transducers' and the rudder pedals (with their=
 toe brake pots - argh!).&nbsp; Or am I worried about=
 nothing? </div>
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<div>As for adapting the handle, that may get interesting.&nbsp;=
 </div>
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<div>I thought that the stick was perpendicular to the side=
 panel, and therefore tilted back towards the pilot at about 4-5=
 degrees? </div>
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<div>Cool stuff, Marv.&nbsp; Thanks!!! </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Steve 
--
 
 Steve Wilson, mafsix@attbi.com on 10/10/2002
 
 
 
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:07:14 -0400, Marv De Beque wrote: 
:::: 
:::: &nbsp; Well, the plan is to get the=
 price down to $300. &nbsp;So far, the 
:::: &nbsp; material cost 
:::: &nbsp; is under control. &nbsp;What is=
 not well understood is the labor 
:::: &nbsp; costs, but I 
:::: &nbsp; feel the goal is reachable.=
 &nbsp;We will see when the first 
:::: &nbsp; prototype is 
:::: &nbsp; complete. 
:::: 
:::: &nbsp; The answer to the last question=
 is probably yes. &nbsp;The actual 
:::: &nbsp; transducer will 
:::: &nbsp; have its own electronics and=
 will drive a standard PC game 
:::: &nbsp; port or EPIC (or 
:::: &nbsp; equivalent). 
:::: 
:::: &nbsp; The electronics for the=
 switches will probably use the 
:::: &nbsp; Cougar's=
 electronics. 
:::: &nbsp; I'll prove and extension cable=
 that plugs into the Cougar's 
:::: &nbsp; base and it 
:::: &nbsp; should work. &nbsp;I'll need to=
 prove that theory out, although. 
:::: 
:::: &nbsp; When my Cougar arrives I will=
 see how I can mate the grip. 
:::: &nbsp; The Cougar's 
:::: &nbsp; design does not have the right=
 mounting angle at the base. &nbsp;I 
:::: &nbsp; will need to 
:::: &nbsp; make an adapter so the grip=
 tilts forward 5 to 10 degrees. 
:::: &nbsp; This means that 
:::: &nbsp; the plug and screw on ring will=
 probably need to be replaced 
:::: &nbsp; with my 
:::: &nbsp; adapter. &nbsp;I don't know how=
 much work will be required to do 
:::: &nbsp; this, but the 
:::: &nbsp; base will include some sort of=
 &quot;kit&quot; to do this. &nbsp;I just don't 
:::: &nbsp; know yet. 
:::: 
:::: &nbsp; I want it to look as real as=
 humanly possible. &nbsp;I don't like 
:::: &nbsp; to compromise. 
:::: &nbsp; ;-) 
:::: &nbsp; -- 
:::: 
:::: 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;From: Steve Wilson=
 &lt;mafsix@attbi.com&gt; 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Reply-To:=
 simpits-tech@simpits.org 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Date: Thu, 10 Oct=
 2002 21:55:03 -0400 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;To:=
 &lt;simpits-tech@simpits.org&gt; 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Subject: Re:=
 [simpits-tech] F-16 Force Transducer Side Stick 
:::: &nbsp; - Update.... 
:::: &nbsp; &gt; 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;No question that this=
 is probably the most significant 
:::: &nbsp; offering for the=
 F-16 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;builder that could=
 ever come along, Marv. &nbsp;Great to hear - 
:::: &nbsp; nice work. 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Naturally, the most=
 pregnant question, that most guys are 
:::: &nbsp; goingt to worry 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;about first, is going=
 to be cost, given that the widgets 
:::: &nbsp; you're playing with 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;are not 'All=
 Electronics' level items. &nbsp;I know you aren't 
:::: &nbsp; going to have an 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;exact figure, but is=
 this beast hovering around $100, $500, 
:::: &nbsp; or $1000? &nbsp;Or 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;more? 
:::: &nbsp; &gt; 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;But sign me up.=
 &nbsp;Whatever happens with my fiberglass, the 
:::: &nbsp; joystick mountpoint 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;will be solid as a=
 rock. 
:::: &nbsp; &gt; 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Oh, BTW, are we going=
 to be able to use our standard Cougar 
:::: &nbsp; electronics? 
:::: &nbsp; &gt; 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Steve 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;-- 
:::: &nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;Steve Wilson,=
 mafsix@attbi.com on 10/10/2002 
:::: &nbsp; &gt; 
:::: &nbsp; &gt; 
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