[simpits-tech] True Force Sensitive F-16 Stick
Marv De Beque
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Tue, 25 Jun 2002 06:56:27 -0400
Thanks!
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> From: "Sukit, Sittisudjatum" <SukitS@state.gov>
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 02:28:18 -0400
> To: "'simpits-tech@simpits.org'" <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] True Force Sensitive F-16 Stick
>
> Sounds perfect ... these are truly high end toys for our cockpits!!! I'm
> impressed.
>
> Sukit Sittisudjatum
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marv De Beque [mailto:mdebeque@woh.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 8:45 AM
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] True Force Sensitive F-16 Stick
>
>
> Sukit,
>
> The Force sensitive stick is very much on the bench. However, right now I
> am focusing on the servo driven gauges.
>
> We are very close to a deal with DTS and final pricing is being worked on as
> I write. I hope in the next few days that Paul can release this as an
> exclusive DTS product.
>
> I think this is going to be an exciting product that will exceed everyone's
> expectations in realism.
>
> Once that product is successfully launched, I'll be working hard to release
> the side stick.
>
> We have two flavors on the drawing board. The first is using strain gauges.
> This is a high end industrial quality design that should offer unparalleled
> accuracy and feel. You are right that there are issues with strain gauges
> and their construction. I have found a company that can provide a robust
> version for my side stick that meets and exceeds our simulation
> requirements.
>
> Not far behind is a force sensitive stick using a new technology in force
> sensors. This system promises performance that should be very close to the
> strain gauge version, but at a much lower cost.
>
> Both designs are user adjustable for force and center position. So you can
> make your stick highly sensitive to the touch or set it up like the real
> McCoy and have yourself an arm wrestling contest. ;-)
>
> We are looking into an aluminum cast grip if costs permit. However, we
> should be able to mate the new Cougar grip to the side stick and that may be
> what we offer.
>
> Also, if you happen to have a real functioning F-16 base and grip I am
> working on a interface board that will drive the real base and provide out
> put to the PC, EPIC, or equivalent system. It will be a plug and play
> solution.
>
> Additionally, a lower cost version of my rudders is on the design board
> using all aluminum, of course.
>
> There are other things in development that will fill in the voids for the
> viper driver that seem to be available no where else. Should knock some
> people's socks off. So Stay Tuned!!!
>
> On that note, I have officially started my own company to make everything
> legitimate. The company name is in honor of my late son:
>
> DBQ Engineering
>
> I hope to provide lots of great products that are ultra high quality as fast
> as I can. I will be working closely with Paul at DTS to get these things
> off the drawing board and into everyone's cockpits. Should be fun for
> everyone. ;-)
>
> Marv
>
> --
>
>
>> From: "Sukit, Sittisudjatum" <SukitS@state.gov>
>> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:59:35 -0400
>> To: "'simpits-tech@simpits.org'" <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
>> Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] True Force Sensitive F-16 Stick
>>
>> Marv,
>>
>> I'm wondering if you still have this project somewhere on your workbench!
> I
>> remembered once we had the explanation how the stick work using strain
>> gauge. I and my members visited the F-16 squadron last 2 weeks
>> (unfortunately, they didn't open the canopy ... cause they didn't want us
> to
>> fly the viper away), we had so many topics exchanged with the viper
> drivers.
>> Then the force sensing stick came to my interest again.
>>
>> He said that 'Once you think you want to roll the bird to the right, the
>> bird rolls right !!!' man... I want to get my Cougar out of the box
> (yeah,
>> the cougar still sleeping in the its box) while having the force sensitive
>> (internal assembly) mod kit (e.g. the base with adaptor) ready for that
>> feeling!!!
>>
>> I tried to find more information on the strain gauges.. and found some
> from
>> www.howstuffwork.com which lead me to some other sites. Those sites are
>> more likely provide online catalogs, not really giving a 'how to' stuff.
>> Then I imagined that it has to be at least four strain gauges placed on
> the
>> opposite side of the X and Y axis. A small software and interfacing needs
> to
>> be done to compare outputs from the two gauges of one axis.. convert into
>> something that sending signal 0-255 for the joystick game port. A software
>> will compare outputs and fine tuning for 'null zone' when no force applied
>> (but some 'errors' caused by yield or pre-stress force need to be
> considered
>> and calibrated). Do we need the gauges installed in a bridged circuit? I
>> don't really know.
>>
>> I'm not form the electronic or control school... this is all I know.. it's
>> all my guess.
>>
>> Sukit Sittisudjatum
>> Bangkok, Thailand
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