[simpits-tech] The birth of DBQ, congrats!!!!!

[Erwin Neyt]

Marv,

I wish you every luck and success you need. This is all very thrilling news.

May the force be with you,

Erwin.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marv De Beque [mailto:mdebeque@woh.rr.com] 
> Sent: dinsdag 25 juni 2002 3:45
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] True Force Sensitive F-16 Stick
> 
> 
> Sukit,
> 
> The Force sensitive stick is very much on the bench.  
> However, right now I am focusing on the servo driven gauges.
> 
> We are very close to a deal with DTS and final pricing is 
> being worked on as I write.  I hope in the next few days that 
> Paul can release this as an exclusive DTS product.
> 
> I think this is going to be an exciting product that will 
> exceed everyone's expectations in realism.
> 
> Once that product is successfully launched, I'll be working 
> hard to release the side stick.
> 
> We have two flavors on the drawing board.  The first is using 
> strain gauges. This is a high end industrial quality design 
> that should offer unparalleled accuracy and feel.  You are 
> right that there are issues with strain gauges and their 
> construction.  I have found a company that can provide a 
> robust version for my side stick that meets and exceeds our 
> simulation requirements.
> 
> Not far behind is a force sensitive stick using a new 
> technology in force sensors.  This system promises 
> performance that should be very close to the strain gauge 
> version, but at a much lower cost.
> 
> Both designs are user adjustable for force and center 
> position.  So you can make your stick highly sensitive to the 
> touch or set it up like the real McCoy and have yourself an 
> arm wrestling contest.  ;-)
> 
> We are looking into an aluminum cast grip if costs permit.  
> However, we should be able to mate the new Cougar grip to the 
> side stick and that may be what we offer.
> 
> Also, if you happen to have a real functioning F-16 base and 
> grip I am working on a interface board that will drive the 
> real base and provide out put to the PC, EPIC, or equivalent 
> system.  It will be a plug and play solution.
> 
> Additionally, a lower cost version of my rudders is on the 
> design board using all aluminum, of course.
> 
> There are other things in development that will fill in the 
> voids for the viper driver that seem to be available no where 
> else.  Should knock some people's socks off.  So Stay Tuned!!!
> 
> On that note, I have officially started my own company to 
> make everything legitimate.  The company name is in honor of 
> my late son:
> 
> DBQ Engineering
> 
> I hope to provide lots of great products that are ultra high 
> quality as fast as I can.  I will be working closely with 
> Paul at DTS to get these things off the drawing board and 
> into everyone's cockpits.  Should be fun for everyone.  ;-)
> 
> Marv
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> > From: "Sukit, Sittisudjatum" <SukitS@state.gov>
> > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:59:35 -0400
> > To: "'simpits-tech@simpits.org'" <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] True Force Sensitive F-16 Stick
> > 
> > Marv,
> > 
> > I'm wondering if you still have this project somewhere on your 
> > workbench!  I remembered once we had the explanation how the stick 
> > work using strain gauge.  I and my members visited the F-16 
> squadron 
> > last 2 weeks (unfortunately, they didn't open the canopy ... cause 
> > they didn't want us to fly the viper away), we had so many topics 
> > exchanged with the viper drivers. Then the force sensing 
> stick came to 
> > my interest again.
> > 
> > He said that 'Once you think you want to roll the bird to 
> the right, 
> > the bird rolls right !!!'  man... I want to get my Cougar 
> out of the 
> > box (yeah, the cougar still sleeping in the its box) while 
> having the 
> > force sensitive (internal assembly) mod kit (e.g. the base with 
> > adaptor) ready for that feeling!!!
> > 
> > I tried to find more information on the strain gauges.. and 
> found some 
> > from www.howstuffwork.com which lead me to some other sites.  Those 
> > sites are more likely provide online catalogs, not really giving a 
> > 'how to' stuff. Then I imagined that it has to be at least 
> four strain 
> > gauges placed on the opposite side of the X and Y axis. A small 
> > software and interfacing needs to be done to compare 
> outputs from the 
> > two gauges of one axis.. convert into something that sending signal 
> > 0-255 for the joystick game port. A software will compare 
> outputs and 
> > fine tuning for 'null zone' when no force applied (but some 
> 'errors' 
> > caused by yield or pre-stress force need to be considered and 
> > calibrated).  Do we need the gauges installed in a bridged 
> circuit?  I 
> > don't really know.
> > 
> > I'm not form the electronic or control school... this is 
> all I know.. 
> > it's all my guess.
> > 
> > Sukit Sittisudjatum
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