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Sukit, Sittisudjatum simpits-tech@simpits.org
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It is really good to know what's underneath the panels.. thank you so much
 
Since I'm not familiar with feet&inch system, I prefer to convert and adjust
all the panel to be metric units.  Besides, I have checked with DZUS for the
fasteners and rails, and found that we have to pay approx $750 for 150 sets
of PFSC35-38A-QA fastener, and one or two pieces of PF35QA rails.
 
I personally like to make a resin or some other materials (aluminum, maybe)
for the fastener's head (only the things to can see from the seat... that's
more than enough to me), and find some solutions to fix all the backplates
to the aircraft's left and right panels.  Finally, I expect to see almost
the same look compare to the real things.  Some of that fastener head sample
were made here.. man, they look so real.  My friend he cast it from resin, I
can even read four small letters 'DZUS' on the top of it !!!!!!
Unfortunately, he refused to make a large number of it.
 
The panels I made are almost done (so many 'almost' here).  They will be
backlidable, made up from 7.5 mm. thickness plastic, and look very solid!
Imagine that we have spent months finding the suppliers and finalizing the
work.  Unbelievable, I have almost 10 pieces of different qualities,
material, thickness and versions of the TEST panel here.

Sukit Sittisudjatum 
Bangkok, Thailand

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: Ken Schlote [mailto:kschlote2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 10:31 AM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ftp site...



Most standard panels are 5.375 in between rails for the F-16. The Manual
Pitch Override row is 2.6 between rails. The EPU is tapered but I don't have
the dimensions yet. The panel below the Nucelar Consent is shorter than the
rest. If you need that I can get it. 


Ken 


  Marv De Beque <mdebeque@woh.rr.com> wrote: 


I know that they are 0.375" on center, but I don't remember the widths
between rails. Gene would know.
-- 


> From: "Ido Dekkers" 
> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:10:23 +0300
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ftp site...
> 
> 
> what about the places were the screws are ?
> 
> 
> 
> Marv De Beque 
> 
> r.com> To
> Sent by: 
> simpits-tech-ad cc
> min@simpits.org 
> bcc 
> 
> 06/18/2002 Subject
> 01:47 PM Re: [simpits-tech] ftp site...
> 
> 
> Please respond 
> to simpits-tech 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> They seem to vary, but 0.050" seems to be the difference betwee! n the
edge
> of
> the light plate and the back plate edge.
> 
> That is, the back plate has a porch of about 0.050" all the way around.
> --
> 
> 
>> From: "Biggles" 
>> Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
>> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 08:08:15 +0200
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ftp site...
>> 
>> Then i only have to say : Good job on working out the panels.
>> Was just trying to be helpfull and not correcting.
>> Might even use some of the panels that you provided :)
>> 
>> Biggles.
>> 
>> (P.s. Ido you might have a good point, Is it the backplate or the front
>> plate size.
>> Does one know what is the know difference is about the front/backplate
> size?
>> Mil spec wise that is.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----! - Original Message -----
>> From: "Gwen de Lucero" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 5:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ftp site...
>> 
>> 
>>> Biggles,
>>> 
>>> Yes the images are 100% actual size. Of course you will get a slight
>>> variation in size when you print depending on how accurate the printer
> you
>>> are using is but that should be pretty much negligible.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Biggles" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ftp site...
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Gwen,
>>>> 
>>>> Just wanne add some to your input:
>>>> Those f! iles look real good.
>>>> But my question is: are they the real size?
>>>> I am not in the possition to find out as i am not having a printer.
>>>> I can send you some scanned front sides of some of the panels.
>>>> By this you can check the ones you got with some of the panels scanned
>> at
>>>> real size.
>>>> 
>>>> I am asking this because i ran into alot of picktures that wheren't the
>>> real
>>>> size.
>>>> Not that this is a real problem. Juist nice (need) to know.
>>>> 
>>>> Just trying to add some to your imput.
>>>> 
>>>> Biggles.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gwen de Lucero" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Monday, Jun! e 17, 2002 11:58 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ftp site...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks again Gene.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I didn't realize bandwidth was that bad an issue for the site. Sorry
>> if
>>>> I'm
>>>>> making things tougher.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you'd like I could put up 11 separate files... one for each page of
>>>> panel
>>>>> graphics.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Gene Buckle" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 5:49 PM
>>>>> Subject: [simpits-tech] ftp site...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok, the ftp site is ! back up - at least until the next script kiddie
>>>> finds
>>>>>> a new exploit. *sigh*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This means that Gwen's stuff is online. If you don't have PhotoShop
>>> or
>>>> a
>>>>>> tool to read PSD files, please don't download it. You won't be able
>>> to
>>>>>> read them anyway. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The file is big (10+MB) and I beg that you guys don't mug my poor
>>>> internet
>>>>>> connection. Go easy on me. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> g.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=916285303-19062002>It is really good to 
know what's underneath the panels.. thank you so much</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=916285303-19062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=916285303-19062002>Since I'm not 
familiar with feet&amp;inch system, I prefer to convert and adjust all the panel 
to be metric units.&nbsp; Besides, I have checked with DZUS for the fasteners 
and rails, and found that we have to pay approx $750 for 150 sets of 
PFSC35-38A-QA fastener, and one or two pieces of PF35QA 
rails.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=916285303-19062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=916285303-19062002>I personally like to 
make a resin or some other materials (aluminum, maybe) for the fastener's head 
(only the things to can see from the seat... that's more than enough to me), and 
find some solutions to fix all the&nbsp;backplates&nbsp;to the aircraft's left 
and right panels.&nbsp; Finally, I expect to see almost the same look compare to 
the real things.&nbsp; Some of that fastener head sample were made here.. 
man,&nbsp;they look so real.&nbsp; My friend he cast it from resin, I can even 
read four small letters 'DZUS' on the top of it !!!!!!&nbsp; Unfortunately, he 
refused to make a large number of it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=916285303-19062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=916285303-19062002></SPAN></FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=916285303-19062002>The panels I made are almost 
done (so many 'almost' here).&nbsp; They will be backlidable, made up from 7.5 
mm. thickness plastic, and look very solid!&nbsp; Imagine that we have spent 
months finding the suppliers and finalizing the work.&nbsp; Unbelievable, I have 
almost 10 pieces of different qualities,&nbsp;material, thickness&nbsp;and 
versions of the TEST panel here.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P><B><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=2>Sukit 
Sittisudjatum</FONT></B>&nbsp;<BR><SPAN class=916285303-19062002><STRONG><FONT 
face=Verdana color=#000080 size=2>Bangkok, Thailand</FONT></STRONG></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=916285303-19062002></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN class=916285303-19062002></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=916285303-19062002>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
Ken Schlote [mailto:kschlote2@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 19, 
2002 10:31 AM<BR><B>To:</B> simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
[simpits-tech] ftp site...<BR><BR></P></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <P>Most standard panels are 5.375 in between rails for the F-16. The Manual 
  Pitch Override row is 2.6 between rails. The EPU is tapered but I don't have 
  the dimensions yet. The panel below the Nucelar Consent is shorter than the 
  rest. If you need that I can get it. 
  <P>Ken 
  <P>&nbsp; <B><I>Marv De Beque &lt;mdebeque@woh.rr.com&gt;</I></B> wrote: 
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
  style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I 
    know that they are 0.375" on center, but I don't remember the 
    widths<BR>between rails. Gene would know.<BR>-- <BR><BR><BR>&gt; From: "Ido 
    Dekkers" <IDEKKERS@CLICKSOFTWARE.COM><BR>&gt; Reply-To: 
    simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR>&gt; Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:10:23 
    +0300<BR>&gt; To: simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: 
    [simpits-tech] ftp site...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; what about the places 
    were the screws are ?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Marv De Beque 
    <BR>&gt; <MDEBEQUE@WOH.R <br>&gt; r.com&gt; To<BR>&gt; Sent by: 
    <SIMPITS-TECH@SIMPITS.ORG><BR>&gt; simpits-tech-ad cc<BR>&gt; 
    min@simpits.org <BR>&gt; bcc <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 06/18/2002 Subject<BR>&gt; 
    01:47 PM Re: [simpits-tech] ftp site...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Please 
    respond <BR>&gt; to simpits-tech <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
    <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; They seem to vary, but 0.050" seems to be the 
    difference betwee! n the edge<BR>&gt; of<BR>&gt; the light plate and the 
    back plate edge.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; That is, the back plate has a porch of 
    about 0.050" all the way around.<BR>&gt; --<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; 
    From: "Biggles" <R.KOOPMAN0@CHELLO.NL><BR>&gt;&gt; Reply-To: 
    simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR>&gt;&gt; Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 08:08:15 
    +0200<BR>&gt;&gt; To: <SIMPITS-TECH@SIMPITS.ORG><BR>&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: 
    [simpits-tech] ftp site...<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; Then i only have to say 
    : Good job on working out the panels.<BR>&gt;&gt; Was just trying to be 
    helpfull and not correcting.<BR>&gt;&gt; Might even use some of the panels 
    that you provided :)<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; Biggles.<BR>&gt;&gt; 
    <BR>&gt;&gt; (P.s. Ido you might have a good point, Is it the backplate or 
    the front<BR>&gt;&gt; plate size.<BR>&gt;&gt; Does one know what is the know 
    difference is about the front/backplate<BR>&gt; size?<BR>&gt;&gt; Mil spec 
    wise that is.<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; ----! - 
    Original Message -----<BR>&gt;&gt; From: "Gwen de Lucero" 
    <GDELUCER@COLUMBUS.RR.COM><BR>&gt;&gt; To: 
    <SIMPITS-TECH@SIMPITS.ORG><BR>&gt;&gt; Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 5:51 
    AM<BR>&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ftp site...<BR>&gt;&gt; 
    <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Biggles,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Yes 
    the images are 100% actual size. Of course you will get a 
    slight<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; variation in size when you print depending on how 
    accurate the printer<BR>&gt; you<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; are using is but that 
    should be pretty much negligible.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; ----- 
    Original Message -----<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; From: "Biggles" 
    <R.KOOPMAN0@CHELLO.NL><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; To: 
    <SIMPITS-TECH@SIMPITS.ORG><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:29 
    PM<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ftp site...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Gwen,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just wanne add some to your input:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    Those f! iles look real good.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; But my question is: are 
    they the real size?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I am not in the possition to find 
    out as i am not having a printer.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I can send you some 
    scanned front sides of some of the panels.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; By this you 
    can check the ones you got with some of the panels scanned<BR>&gt;&gt; 
    at<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; real size.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I 
    am asking this because i ran into alot of picktures that wheren't 
    the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; real<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; size.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Not 
    that this is a real problem. Juist nice (need) to know.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just trying to add some to your 
    imput.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Biggles.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: 
    "Gwen de Lucero" <GDELUCER@COLUMBUS.RR.COM><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: 
    <SIMPITS-TECH@SIMPITS.ORG><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Monday, Jun! e 17, 2002 
    11:58 PM<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] ftp 
    site...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    Thanks again Gene.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I didn't 
    realize bandwidth was that bad an issue for the site. Sorry<BR>&gt;&gt; 
    if<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I'm<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; making things 
    tougher.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If you'd like I 
    could put up 11 separate files... one for each page of<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    panel<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; graphics.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ----- Original Message 
    -----<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: "Gene Buckle" 
    <GENEB@DELTASOFT.COM><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: 
    <SIMPITS-TECH@SIMPITS.ORG><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Monday, June 17, 
    2002 5:49 PM<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: [simpits-tech] ftp 
    site...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ok, the ftp site is ! back up - at least until 
    the next script kiddie<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; finds<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    a new exploit. *sigh*<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This means that Gwen's stuff is online. If you 
    don't have PhotoShop<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; or<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    a<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; tool to read PSD files, please don't download 
    it. You won't be able<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; to<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; read 
    them anyway. :)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The 
    file is big (10+MB) and I beg that you guys don't mug my 
    poor<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; internet<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; connection. Go 
    easy on me. :)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    g.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
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