[simpits-tech] Servo Driven Gauges and MFD/HUD data

Erwin Neyt simpits-tech@simpits.org
Sun, 9 Jun 2002 10:54:17 +0200


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Problem is that if the MFD's are not onscreen, they will not be rendered at
all.
 
What we want is MFD data which is rendered all the time (for example we
we're in HUD only mode)
 
Erwin.
 
BTW. I can't say much but I am in contact with G2I concerning this subject.
Please be patient.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:ccrowley@mccrowley.com]
Sent: Saturday, 08 June, 2002 12:31
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Servo Driven Gauges and MFD/HUD data


Why is this feature so complicated? The MFDs show up in the Black boxes that
are located in the "virtual cockpits". If you have ever looked at the
virtual cockpit graphics, all of the gauges are blacked out so the software
can generate the flight info in the black areas. Somehow a function places
them in a position that is "cut out" for them. It varies from virtual
cockpit to virtual cockpit, or even from view to view.
 
Now if they are adding multiple monitor capability, why not have a view that
is just the LEFT and one that is just the right MFD? This would be simpler
than pulling the raw data out of the code.
 
This is a question, I am sure its more complicated than that. 
 
Chris Crowley
(Building Viper Pit)

-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Marc Weigert
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:35 PM
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: AW: [simpits-tech] Servo Driven Gauges and MFD/HUD data


Hello Joseph,
 
thanks for your answer!
 
So it looks as if there is a vague chance that we will see this feature in
the future! 
 
Is it so complicated for them to do this, or is it just a matter of focusing
on features that the broad simulation comunity will appreaciate?
 
Cheers,
 
Marc


To answer your question Marc, I asked him (G2I Guy) and his response was
there is no current way to display that data.  We (myself and others) asked
that they make it available for output anyway and we'll figure out a way to
display it.  So I don't know if it will be output or not.  This guy (Claude
'shadow' Cavanaugh President and CEO of G2I) and his email
shadow@g2interactive.com <mailto:shadow@g2interactive.com>  seems real open
to answering questions and has an EPIC system himself and tells me they/he
is currently working on a mode to interface the EPIC and Cougar.  So I hold
out hope there will be MFD/HUD data.

 

Crease-guard


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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=045292708-09062002>Problem is that if the MFD's are not onscreen, they 
will not be rendered at all.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=045292708-09062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=045292708-09062002>What 
we want is MFD data which is rendered all the time (for example we we're in HUD 
only mode)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=045292708-09062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=045292708-09062002>Erwin.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=045292708-09062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=045292708-09062002>BTW. I 
can't say much but I am in contact with G2I concerning this subject.&nbsp;Please 
be patient.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
  <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Chris 
  [mailto:ccrowley@mccrowley.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 08 June, 2002 
  12:31<BR><B>To:</B> simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
  [simpits-tech] Servo Driven Gauges and MFD/HUD data<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=720442510-08062002>Why 
  is this feature so complicated? The MFDs show up in the Black boxes that are 
  located in the "virtual cockpits". If you have ever looked at the virtual 
  cockpit graphics, all of the gauges are blacked out so the software can 
  generate the flight info in the black areas. Somehow a function places them in 
  a position that is "cut out" for them. It varies from virtual cockpit to 
  virtual cockpit, or even from view to view.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=720442510-08062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=720442510-08062002>Now 
  if they are adding multiple monitor capability, why not have a view that is 
  just the LEFT and one that is just the right MFD? This would be simpler than 
  pulling the raw data out of the code.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=720442510-08062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=720442510-08062002>This 
  is a question, I am sure its more complicated than that. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=720442510-08062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=720442510-08062002>Chris Crowley</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=720442510-08062002>(Building Viper Pit)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]<B>On 
    Behalf Of </B>Marc Weigert<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 07, 2002 7:35 
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> AW: 
    [simpits-tech] Servo Driven Gauges and MFD/HUD data<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT 
    color=#0000ff><SPAN class=434440523-07062002><FONT color=#000000 
    face=Tahoma>Hello Joseph,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 
    face=Tahoma><SPAN 
    class=434440523-07062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial><SPAN class=434440523-07062002>thanks for your 
    answer!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial><SPAN 
    class=434440523-07062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial><SPAN class=434440523-07062002>So it looks as if there is a vague 
    chance that we will see this feature in the future! 
    </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial><SPAN 
    class=434440523-07062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial><SPAN class=434440523-07062002>Is it so complicated for them to 
    do this, or is it just a matter of focusing on features that the broad 
    simulation comunity will 
    appreaciate?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial><SPAN 
    class=434440523-07062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial><SPAN 
    class=434440523-07062002>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial><SPAN 
    class=434440523-07062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial><SPAN class=434440523-07062002>Marc</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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      <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN 
      style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To answer your 
      question Marc, I asked him (G2I Guy) and his response was there is no 
      current way to display that data.&nbsp; We (myself and others) asked that 
      they make it available for output anyway and we&#8217;ll figure out a way to 
      display it.&nbsp; So I don&#8217;t know if it will be output or not.&nbsp; This 
      guy (Claude 'shadow' Cavanaugh President and CEO of G2I) and his email <A 
      href="mailto:shadow@g2interactive.com">shadow@g2interactive.com</A> seems 
      real open to answering questions and has an EPIC system himself and tells 
      me they/he is currently working on a mode to interface the EPIC and 
      Cougar.&nbsp; So I hold out hope there will be MFD/HUD 
      data.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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      style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
      <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN 
      style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Crease-guard</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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