[simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
Gene Buckle
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Mon, 30 Dec 2002 07:35:33 -0800 (PST)
I've got this picture in my head of this poor guy, his teeth wired to
strain gauges, being drug kicking and screaming to the centerline pylon
mount of an F-16.... :)
g.
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, James Hallows wrote:
> Wait a minute ..... let's not forget about the effects of flying different
> combat aircraft on pilot's teeth as well. That's got to be worth a ride or
> two for me. And given that I'm also a Materials Scientist, I can do some in
> flight testing/measurements on other aspects of the aircraft.
>
> Man I fancy my chances now !!!
>
> No?
>
> Damn! Ok back to my PC sims then.
>
> James
>
> >There you go Doc!
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Joseph Fagner" <crease-guard@attbi.com>
> >To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:35 PM
> >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> >
> >
> > > Hey Chris, tell them you need some outside Civilian medical opinions too
> > > so I can score a ride. F-18, 16, 4, 14 don't care which one it is.
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
> > > [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Chris Woodul
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:06 PM
> > > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> > >
> > > Hi Brian,
> > >
> > > Like anything else, I cannot claim to be 100 percent right on this, but
> > > I
> > > did have lots of involvement with that system in the 1997-1998 time
> > > frame,
> > > and I did study the bird before, during and after. The two seater that
> > > they
> > > had was kind of cool cause they used the single seat transparancy cut in
> > > a
> > > special way to be used in a NEW metal frame for the back seat canopy. If
> > > you
> > > look at a picture of one, the back seat canopy is tapered much smaller
> > > than
> > > the front, so its really a clever cost saving utilization of an existing
> > > design. There could have been some de-mothballing of this jet during or
> > > right after the gulf war and this lucky woman ended up getting a ride.
> > > I am currently working a contract for my companies G-Cueing NACES seat
> > > that
> > > we do in partnership with Cranfield Aerospace in the UK. I am trying to
> > > work
> > > a flight in a USN Test Pilots School F/A-18 to feel some of the subltle
> > > nuances of "G"pressures exerted on a pilots body during certain
> > > manuvers.....but really, I just want another Jet
> > > Flight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > ; )
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> > >
> > >
> > > > Interesting stuff, Chris! You've got me doubting it a bit more, but it
> > > still
> > > > seems to stick out in my memory that it was a ride in an A-10... Of
> > > course
> > > > there's no way to check on the news report, it was so long ago that I
> > > can
> > > > barely remember... I seem to recall it was around the Gulf War. But if
> > > it
> > > is
> > > > true that it was grounded 18 years ago, then I must be wrong, no way
> > > do I
> > > > remember that from when I was 1! Heheh. But if it were <10 or so, then
> > > I
> > > may
> > > > still be right. Or I may be completely full of it, both have been
> > > known to
> > > > happen from time to time! :)
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > > From: "Chris Woodul" <crewstation1@charter.net>
> > > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> > > > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:44:19 -0600
> > > >
> > > > Hi Brian,
> > > >
> > > > The two seater was around back in the late seventies when the A-10 was
> > > in
> > > > Production. I think it ended up at Edwards for an attempt at making
> > > the
> > > > backseaters station a dedicated WSO position ( after the trainer
> > > version
> > > > failed) but then that idea died as well. That two seater probably has
> > > not
> > > > flown in 18 years?? I cant confirm this right off the bat. Until the
> > > 1990
> > > > invasion of Kuwait the A-10 itself was on its last legs. The USAF did
> > > not
> > > > want it. All the flight simulators were scraped and sold off in the
> > > late
> > > > 80's. I worked on the UTD ( Unit Training Device) and in the process I
> > > ended
> > > > up getting to keep an A-10A cockpit section that was cut off a real
> > > A-10
> > > at
> > > > Davis Monthan AFB ( AMARC) in Tuscon Az. I was thrilled cause they
> > > thought
> > > > that the cockpit was a piece of scrap that had no more use to them
> > > since
> > > > they had already reverse engineered it. I ended up trading it to a
> > > friend
> > > in
> > > > California who still has it today. I also got to see the plane they
> > > cut
> > > off
> > > > the cockpit from at DM in person. They had the front end proped up on
> > > Wooden
> > > > crates to keep it level since it had no nose gear ( or nose for that
> > > matter)
> > > > It was almost a 16 foot long cockpit section with the titanium bathtub
> > > in
> > > it
> > > > and the canopy etc. When at DMAFB that time I did look for the two
> > > seat
> > > A-10
> > > > in the rows but did not see it. It may reside at the Edwards AFB
> > > musuem in
> > > > California.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:23 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > 90% sure. This was some years ago... any idea when exactly it was
> > > > > mothballed?
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > > > From: "Chris Woodul" <crewstation1@charter.net>
> > > > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> > > > > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:15:48 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you sure? there was only one Two seat A-10 and it was a
> > > Fairchild
> > > > 'One
> > > > > Off' becuase the Hog was so easy to fly that the airforce found no
> > > need
> > > > for
> > > > > a two seat coversion trainer. The only one I know of has not flown
> > > in
> > > > many
> > > > > years and is in storage.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Brian Sikkema" <hangr18@hotmail.com>
> > > > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:06 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] RE: F-16 flight
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've heard of celebs getting flights before (hell a local TV
> > > > Anchorwoman
> > > > > > managed to score a flight in one of the VERY few 2-seat A-10's
> > > out
> > > > there,
> > > > > I
> > > > > > still wanna know how that happened), but firing a sidewinder?
> > > PILOTS
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > get to do that very often!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Somehow he scored a ride in viper and got to fly, pull 9G's and
> > > fire
> > > > off
> > > > > a
> > > > > > >sidewinder.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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