[simpits-chat] Chris's pit

Chris Woodul simpits-chat@simpits.org
Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:00:49 -0600


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Jay,=20

You can measure off anything in it you want. I have given parts and info =
to Martin "Pegasus" for just the same reasons. One of the main reasons I =
got this thing is to be able to use the laser scanner on it to glean =
info right out of it into CAD/CAM. It will be a timesaver despite the =
fact I have authentic technical data on the crewstation on the -16.=20
We are making a JSF cockpit right now for LM, for thier second full size =
mock up which will be at Paris this year.
Its a really busy time this year,...would like to have some more months =
in this first quarter. That would make life nice!

Take it easy,

Chris

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Joseph Fagner=20
  To: simpits-chat@simpits.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:54 PM
  Subject: RE: [simpits-chat] Chris's pit


  I can upload your pics, no prob. Chris.  Can't wait to see it in =
person.  I will bring my Digital camera and upload pics to the simpits =
site when I get home from seeing the pit.   I want to come out on a day =
that I can take some detailed measurements for my pit building.  I would =
like to dissect apart every piece that you'll let me.  As I type right =
now, my wife is talking to a girl she works with whose husband in some =
sort of project manager/big wig type who works for Lockheed and oversees =
guess which program???  You got it, the F-16.  So, she is setting up a =
date we can all go out to dinner and I am going to try to do some =
networking here and see what if anything I can buy, beg, steal or batter =
for.  I hope I can use you, Chris, and hopefully meet a new friend and =
compile some data and measurements for us Viper drivers out there.  =
Guess I am going to have to set up a web site so I can deliver this info =
if and when I get it.  Boy, I'm getting excited just thinking about it, =
heheheheh.



  Jay



  -----Original Message-----
  From: simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org =
[mailto:simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Chris Woodul
  Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:33 PM
  To: simpits-chat@simpits.org
  Subject: Re: [simpits-chat] Chris's pit



  LOL<=20

  HI Mike, I knew I would get a rise out of someone with the LED =
comment! ; )

  I am a solderer too, but I require a bit of fun in my simulator =
discussions. I will put the pics up when it gets here cuase I want to =
take my own clean pics of the trainer. The Cockpit is complete and has =
all interior components. I am going to put a new Wide angle LANTRIN HUD =
into it, along with real flight instruments and MFD,s. A few other parts =
I will trade out as needed. Right now all the warning lights function, =
and I will add the Floods and other various systems for realism. This =
cockpit will be a sister to my F-111 cockpits. I am also getting another =
one which has a canopy ( C model too), and possibly an A model too. I am =
going to give the A model cockpit to Marc Wiegart.

  I dont know how to do photo uploads anyway, Ill have to have Doc =
Fagner do it for me.



  Take care,



  Chris



    ----- Original Message -----=20

    From: Mike Williams=20

    To: simpits-chat@simpits.org ; simpits-chat@simpits.org=20

    Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:19 PM

    Subject: [simpits-chat] Chris's pit



          Chris, send up some pictures of those pits, LED soldering =
crew?

          lets hear it  :)=20
          =20





          Mike Williams

          -------Original Message-------



          From: simpits-chat@simpits.org

          Date: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:55:22 PM

          To: simpits-chat@simpits.org

          Subject: Re: [simpits-chat] Framed



          Hi Doc Fagner!

          You need to come by and see the pictures of the new F-16C =
cockpit I just
          bought. Its awesome. I also bought another real F-16 ACES II =
and a true
          F-15 ACES II. I will be shipping it in the next week or two.
          I have pictures on my pc.
          I love being able to talk OFF TOPIC...How nice. I hope the LED =
soldering
          crowd doesnt push me out of this fourm too! ; )

          Cheers,

          Chris

          PS Hi to all the other off topic freaks out there. I miss the =
chats!


          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "Joseph Fagner" <crease-guard@attbi.com>
          To: <simpits-chat@simpits.org>
          Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:44 PM
          Subject: RE: [simpits-chat] Framed


          > Hey Stig, this is off Brian's topic (sorry Brian, I'm stuck =
on this one)
          but
          > maybe you can help me. I have a buddy of mine who just =
recently moved to
          > Spain. He used to live in New Jersey and we would play =
Falcon 4 online
          all
          > the time. He had a static and I had a dynamic IP behind a =
router and I
          > would open ports and add the command line to falcon.exe -ip =
xxx.xxx.xxx.xx
          > of my cable modem's IP address and we could play just fine.
          >
          > Now I have the static ip address and can hook into the =
Jetnet (Falcon's
          > online game server) but he has a private IP address in the =
10.2.x.x range.
          > We cannot get him to hook into any server (or hook into my =
machine) to
          play
          > online. We have opened the needed ports (we think) but he =
doesn't seem to
          > be behind a mappable IP address, only a private one. How can =
we get
          around
          > this so he can play online? He is able to use Roger Wilco =
and I have a
          base
          > station set up and we can talk to each other smooth as =
butter.
          >
          > Any help from you or anyone would be greatly appreciated. By =
the way,
          > someone either in the chat or Tech group recommended using 2 =
soundcards to
          > pipe the sound effects through one and the voice comms of =
roger wilco
          > through the other. Well, I can tell you first hand it works =
like a champ
          > (I'm using XP pro). I couldn't believe I didn't have any =
conflicts with
          > this working.
          >
          > Jay
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org
          [mailto:simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org]
          > On Behalf Of Stig Joergensen
          > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:27 PM
          > To: simpits-chat@simpits.org
          > Subject: RE: [simpits-chat] Framed
          >
          > Here is an example of using telnet as a mail program....
          >
          > start telnet in dos prompt :
          >
          > "c:\>telnet 192.168.2.2 25"
          >
          > (192.168.2.2 is my mailserver, change that to the mailserver =
on campus)
          >
          > the server will answer your request with something like (in =
the example
          > this is a:)
          >
          > "220 ESMTP ready at Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:06:43 +0100"
          >
          > now type ( following is this t:)
          >
          > "HELO"
          >
          > a: 250 mail.clearsky.dk Hello [192.168.2.18]
          > t: MAIL From: stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk
          > a: 250 2.1.0 stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk....Sender OK
          > t: RCPT To: stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk
          > a: 250 2.1.5 stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk
          > t: DATA
          > a: 354 Start mail input; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
          > t: this is a test mail
          > t: .
          > a: 250 2.6.0 <Ks6qisdBzPO0000000b@mail.clearsky.dk> Queued =
mail for
          > delivery
          >
          > and woila - the mail is delivered
          >
          > t: QUIT
          >
          > for ending the session......
          >
          > as you can see from this example it is quite easy to send a =
mail - even
          > without a mailing program....
          >
          > be aware of the above should work with all mailserver though =
the
          > response from the mail server might not the same, unless =
they are
          > running "MS exchange server 2k"
          >
          > if you can use this example, go ahead - and from the IT =
department get
          > the firewall logs (but be careful here - you might open a =
can of worms
          > as they will be searching for your ip address, and in doing =
so they will
          > see what else you have done on the "net", such as =
downloading mp3s)
          >
          > /Stig
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > > -----Original Message-----
          > > From: Gene Buckle [mailto:geneb@deltasoft.com]
          > > Sent: 19. februar 2003 00:40
          > > To: simpits-chat@simpits.org
          > > Subject: Re: [simpits-chat] Framed
          > >
          > >
          > > > Subscribe conformation was in place, Gene. The Dean
          > > recieved the email
          > > > asking to confirm for the mailing list, she sent that to =
IT
          > > and they emailed
          > > > the newsletter people. At least, I think that's the way =
it
          > > was set up. I
          > > > gave the wrong copy of my information to my Commander, I
          > > left myself with
          > > > the copy with less info, I think. Basically, IT asked =
the
          > > newsletter people
          > > > who subscribed that email address, and the newsletter
          > > people responded with
          > > > one line: my IP address.
          > > >
          > > I would still want to see the full headers. If there is a
          > > line in there
          > > that says: your.ip.address [other.ip.address], the ip
          > > address between the
          > > brackets is the real address. It could also read: =
your.hostname.edu
          > > [other hostname or ip address]
          > >
          > > > all work out, I'm sure, I just wanted to go to my =
hearing with some
          > > > semi-professional oppinions backing me up on what might
          > > have happened.
          > >
          > > If it helps, I run my own mail servers so I know what I'm
          > > talking about.
          > > There are others on this list that are equally as skilled.
          > > I'm sure we'd
          > > be happy to eat 'em alive for you. :)
          > >
          > > g.
          > >
          > >
          > > _______________________________________________
          > > simpits-chat mailing list
          > > simpits-chat@simpits.org
          > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat
          > >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can measure off anything in it you =
want. I have=20
given parts and info to Martin "Pegasus" for just the same reasons. One =
of the=20
main reasons I got this thing is to be able to use the laser scanner on =
it to=20
glean info right out of it into CAD/CAM. It will be a timesaver despite =
the fact=20
I have authentic technical data on the crewstation on the -16. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We are making a JSF cockpit right now =
for LM, for=20
thier second full size mock up which will be at Paris this =
year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Its a really busy time this =
year,...would like to=20
have some more months in this first quarter. That would make life=20
nice!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Take it easy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dcrease-guard@attbi.com =
href=3D"mailto:crease-guard@attbi.com">Joseph=20
  Fagner</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dsimpits-chat@simpits.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 18, =
2003 9:54=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [simpits-chat] =
Chris's=20
  pit</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can =
upload your=20
  pics, no prob. Chris.&nbsp; Can=92t wait to see it in person.&nbsp; I =
will bring=20
  my Digital camera and upload pics to the simpits site when I get home =
from=20
  seeing the pit. &nbsp;&nbsp;I want to come out on a day that I can =
take some=20
  detailed measurements for my pit building.&nbsp; I would like to =
dissect apart=20
  every piece that you=92ll let me.&nbsp; As I type right now, my wife =
is talking=20
  to a girl she works with whose husband in some sort of project =
manager/big wig=20
  type who works for Lockheed and oversees guess which program???&nbsp; =
You got=20
  it, the F-16.&nbsp; So, she is setting up a date we can all go out to =
dinner=20
  and I am going to try to do some networking here and see what if =
anything I=20
  can buy, beg, steal or batter for.&nbsp; I hope I can use you, Chris, =
and=20
  hopefully meet a new friend and compile some data and measurements for =
us=20
  Viper drivers out there.&nbsp; Guess I am going to have to set up a =
web site=20
  so I can deliver this info if and when I get it.&nbsp; Boy, I=92m =
getting=20
  excited just thinking about it, heheheheh.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Jay</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
  simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org] =

  <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Chris=20
  Woodul<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
Tuesday,=20
  February 18, 2003 8:33 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
  simpits-chat@simpits.org<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [simpits-chat] =
Chris's=20
  pit</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">LOL&lt; =
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">HI Mike, I knew I would =
get a rise=20
  out of someone with the LED comment! ; )</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am a solderer too, but =
I require=20
  a bit of fun in my simulator discussions. I will put the pics up when =
it gets=20
  here cuase I want to take my own clean pics of the trainer. The =
Cockpit is=20
  complete and has all interior components. I am going to put a new Wide =
angle=20
  LANTRIN HUD into it, along with real flight instruments and MFD,s. A =
few other=20
  parts I will trade out as needed. Right now all the warning lights =
function,=20
  and I will add the Floods and other various systems for realism. This =
cockpit=20
  will be a sister to my F-111 cockpits. I am also getting another one =
which has=20
  a canopy ( C model too), and possibly an A model too. I am going to =
give the A=20
  model cockpit to Marc Wiegart.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I dont know how to do =
photo=20
  uploads anyway, Ill have to have Doc Fagner do it for=20
  me.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Take =
care,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message =
-----=20
    </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"font-color: black">
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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    face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
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    face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
    title=3Dmikewilliams3@comcast.net =
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    Williams</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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Arial"> <A=20
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    =
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    =
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    </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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    Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:19 PM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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    [simpits-chat] Chris's pit</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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          <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chris, send up =
some=20
          pictures of those pits, LED soldering =
crew?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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          <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">lets hear it=20
          &nbsp;:)&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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          <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
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          =
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          Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:55:22 PM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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          <A=20
          =
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          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-STYLE: =
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          Re: [simpits-chat] Framed</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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          <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi Doc =
Fagner!<BR><BR>You=20
          need to come by and see the pictures of the new F-16C cockpit =
I=20
          just<BR>bought. Its awesome. I also bought another real F-16 =
ACES II=20
          and a true<BR>F-15 ACES II. I will be shipping it in the next =
week or=20
          two.<BR>I have pictures on my pc.<BR>I love being able to talk =
OFF=20
          TOPIC...How nice. I hope the LED soldering<BR>crowd doesnt =
push me out=20
          of this fourm too! ; )<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>Chris<BR><BR>PS =
Hi to all=20
          the other off topic freaks out there. I miss the=20
          chats!<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: =
"Joseph=20
          Fagner" &lt;<A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:crease-guard@attbi.com">crease-guard@attbi.com</A>&gt;<BR>=
To:=20
          &lt;<A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</A>&gt;=
<BR>Sent:=20
          Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:44 PM<BR>Subject: RE: =
[simpits-chat]=20
          Framed<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Hey Stig, this is off Brian's topic =
(sorry=20
          Brian, I'm stuck on this one)<BR>but<BR>&gt; maybe you can =
help me. I=20
          have a buddy of mine who just recently moved to<BR>&gt; Spain. =
He used=20
          to live in New Jersey and we would play Falcon 4 =
online<BR>all<BR>&gt;=20
          the time. He had a static and I had a dynamic IP behind a =
router and=20
          I<BR>&gt; would open ports and add the command line to =
falcon.exe -ip=20
          xxx.xxx.xxx.xx<BR>&gt; of my cable modem's IP address and we =
could=20
          play just fine.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Now I have the static ip =
address and=20
          can hook into the Jetnet (Falcon's<BR>&gt; online game server) =
but he=20
          has a private IP address in the 10.2.x.x range.<BR>&gt; We =
cannot get=20
          him to hook into any server (or hook into my machine)=20
          to<BR>play<BR>&gt; online. We have opened the needed ports (we =
think)=20
          but he doesn't seem to<BR>&gt; be behind a mappable IP =
address, only a=20
          private one. How can we get<BR>around<BR>&gt; this so he can =
play=20
          online? He is able to use Roger Wilco and I have =
a<BR>base<BR>&gt;=20
          station set up and we can talk to each other smooth as=20
          butter.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Any help from you or anyone would be =
greatly=20
          appreciated. By the way,<BR>&gt; someone either in the chat or =
Tech=20
          group recommended using 2 soundcards to<BR>&gt; pipe the sound =
effects=20
          through one and the voice comms of roger wilco<BR>&gt; through =
the=20
          other. Well, I can tell you first hand it works like a =
champ<BR>&gt;=20
          (I'm using XP pro). I couldn't believe I didn't have any =
conflicts=20
          with<BR>&gt; this working.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Jay<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =

          -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: <A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org">simpits-chat-admin@simpits=
.org</A><BR><A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:%5bmailto:simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org">[mailto:simpits-=
chat-admin@simpits.org</A>]<BR>&gt;=20
          On Behalf Of Stig Joergensen<BR>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, February =
18, 2003=20
          6:27 PM<BR>&gt; To: <A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</A><BR>=
&gt;=20
          Subject: RE: [simpits-chat] Framed<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Here is an =
example=20
          of using telnet as a mail program....<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; start =
telnet in=20
          dos prompt :<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; "c:\&gt;telnet 192.168.2.2=20
          25"<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; (192.168.2.2 is my mailserver, change that =
to the=20
          mailserver on campus)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; the server will answer =
your=20
          request with something like (in the example<BR>&gt; this is=20
          a:)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; "220 ESMTP ready at Wed, 19 Feb 2003 =
01:06:43=20
          +0100"<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; now type ( following is this=20
          t:)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; "HELO"<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; a: 250 =
mail.clearsky.dk=20
          Hello [192.168.2.18]<BR>&gt; t: MAIL From: <A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk">stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk</=
A><BR>&gt;=20
          a: 250 2.1.0 <A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk....Sender">stig.joergensen@cle=
arsky.dk....Sender</A>=20
          OK<BR>&gt; t: RCPT To: <A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk">stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk</=
A><BR>&gt;=20
          a: 250 2.1.5 <A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk">stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk</=
A><BR>&gt;=20
          t: DATA<BR>&gt; a: 354 Start mail input; end with=20
          &lt;CRLF&gt;.&lt;CRLF&gt;<BR>&gt; t: this is a test =
mail<BR>&gt; t:=20
          .<BR>&gt; a: 250 2.6.0 &lt;<A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:Ks6qisdBzPO0000000b@mail.clearsky.dk">Ks6qisdBzPO0000000b@=
mail.clearsky.dk</A>&gt;=20
          Queued mail for<BR>&gt; delivery<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; and woila - =
the mail=20
          is delivered<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; t: QUIT<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; for =
ending the=20
          session......<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; as you can see from this example =
it is=20
          quite easy to send a mail - even<BR>&gt; without a mailing=20
          program....<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; be aware of the above should work =
with all=20
          mailserver though the<BR>&gt; response from the mail server =
might not=20
          the same, unless they are<BR>&gt; running "MS exchange server=20
          2k"<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; if you can use this example, go ahead - =
and from=20
          the IT department get<BR>&gt; the firewall logs (but be =
careful here -=20
          you might open a can of worms<BR>&gt; as they will be =
searching for=20
          your ip address, and in doing so they will<BR>&gt; see what =
else you=20
          have done on the "net", such as downloading =
mp3s)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
          /Stig<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
-----Original=20
          Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; From: Gene Buckle [<A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:geneb@deltasoft.com">mailto:geneb@deltasoft.com</A>]<BR>&g=
t;=20
          &gt; Sent: 19. februar 2003 00:40<BR>&gt; &gt; To: <A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</A><BR>=
&gt;=20
          &gt; Subject: Re: [simpits-chat] Framed<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;=20
          &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Subscribe conformation was in place, =
Gene. The=20
          Dean<BR>&gt; &gt; recieved the email<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; asking =
to=20
          confirm for the mailing list, she sent that to IT<BR>&gt; &gt; =
and=20
          they emailed<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; the newsletter people. At =
least, I=20
          think that's the way it<BR>&gt; &gt; was set up. I<BR>&gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
          gave the wrong copy of my information to my Commander, =
I<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
          left myself with<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; the copy with less info, I =
think.=20
          Basically, IT asked the<BR>&gt; &gt; newsletter people<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
          &gt; who subscribed that email address, and the =
newsletter<BR>&gt;=20
          &gt; people responded with<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; one line: my IP=20
          address.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I would still want to =
see the=20
          full headers. If there is a<BR>&gt; &gt; line in there<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
          that says: your.ip.address [other.ip.address], the ip<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
          address between the<BR>&gt; &gt; brackets is the real address. =
It=20
          could also read: your.hostname.edu<BR>&gt; &gt; [other =
hostname or ip=20
          address]<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; all work out, I'm =
sure, I just=20
          wanted to go to my hearing with some<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;=20
          semi-professional oppinions backing me up on what =
might<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
          have happened.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; If it helps, I run my =
own=20
          mail servers so I know what I'm<BR>&gt; &gt; talking =
about.<BR>&gt;=20
          &gt; There are others on this list that are equally as=20
          skilled.<BR>&gt; &gt; I'm sure we'd<BR>&gt; &gt; be happy to =
eat 'em=20
          alive for you. :)<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; g.<BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
          &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
          _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
          simpits-chat mailing list<BR>&gt; &gt; <A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</A><BR>=
&gt;=20
          &gt; <A=20
          =
href=3D"http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat">http://www.=
simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat</A><BR>&gt;=20
          &gt;<BR>&gt; =
_______________________________________________<BR>&gt;=20
          simpits-chat mailing list<BR>&gt; <A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</A><BR>=
&gt;=20
          <A=20
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href=3D"http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat">http://www.=
simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat</A><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
          _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; =
simpits-chat=20
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href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</A><BR>=
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href=3D"http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat">http://www.=
simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat</A><BR>&gt;<BR><BR><BR>________=
_______________________________________<BR>simpits-chat=20
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href=3D"http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat">http://www.=
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