[simpits-chat] Chris's pit

Joseph Fagner simpits-chat@simpits.org
Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:54:52 -0600


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I can upload your pics, no prob. Chris.  Can't wait to see it in person. =
 I
will bring my Digital camera and upload pics to the simpits site when I =
get
home from seeing the pit.   I want to come out on a day that I can take =
some
detailed measurements for my pit building.  I would like to dissect =
apart
every piece that you'll let me.  As I type right now, my wife is talking =
to
a girl she works with whose husband in some sort of project manager/big =
wig
type who works for Lockheed and oversees guess which program???  You got =
it,
the F-16.  So, she is setting up a date we can all go out to dinner and =
I am
going to try to do some networking here and see what if anything I can =
buy,
beg, steal or batter for.  I hope I can use you, Chris, and hopefully =
meet a
new friend and compile some data and measurements for us Viper drivers =
out
there.  Guess I am going to have to set up a web site so I can deliver =
this
info if and when I get it.  Boy, I'm getting excited just thinking about =
it,
heheheheh.

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Jay

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-----Original Message-----
From: simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org =
[mailto:simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org]
On Behalf Of Chris Woodul
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:33 PM
To: simpits-chat@simpits.org
Subject: Re: [simpits-chat] Chris's pit

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LOL<=20

HI Mike, I knew I would get a rise out of someone with the LED comment! =
; )

I am a solderer too, but I require a bit of fun in my simulator =
discussions.
I will put the pics up when it gets here cuase I want to take my own =
clean
pics of the trainer. The Cockpit is complete and has all interior
components. I am going to put a new Wide angle LANTRIN HUD into it, =
along
with real flight instruments and MFD,s. A few other parts I will trade =
out
as needed. Right now all the warning lights function, and I will add the
Floods and other various systems for realism. This cockpit will be a =
sister
to my F-111 cockpits. I am also getting another one which has a canopy ( =
C
model too), and possibly an A model too. I am going to give the A model
cockpit to Marc Wiegart.

I dont know how to do photo uploads anyway, Ill have to have Doc Fagner =
do
it for me.

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Take care,

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Chris

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----- Original Message -----=20

From: Mike <mailto:mikewilliams3@comcast.net>  Williams=20

To: simpits-chat@simpits.org ; simpits-chat@simpits.org=20

Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:19 PM

Subject: [simpits-chat] Chris's pit

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Chris, send up some pictures of those pits, LED soldering crew?

lets hear it  :)=20
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Mike Williams

-------Original Message-------

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From: simpits-chat@simpits.org

Date: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:55:22 PM

To: simpits-chat@simpits.org

Subject: Re: [simpits-chat] Framed

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Hi Doc Fagner!

You need to come by and see the pictures of the new F-16C cockpit I just
bought. Its awesome. I also bought another real F-16 ACES II and a true
F-15 ACES II. I will be shipping it in the next week or two.
I have pictures on my pc.
I love being able to talk OFF TOPIC...How nice. I hope the LED soldering
crowd doesnt push me out of this fourm too! ; )

Cheers,

Chris

PS Hi to all the other off topic freaks out there. I miss the chats!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Fagner" <crease-guard@attbi.com>
To: <simpits-chat@simpits.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:44 PM
Subject: RE: [simpits-chat] Framed


> Hey Stig, this is off Brian's topic (sorry Brian, I'm stuck on this =
one)
but
> maybe you can help me. I have a buddy of mine who just recently moved =
to
> Spain. He used to live in New Jersey and we would play Falcon 4 online
all
> the time. He had a static and I had a dynamic IP behind a router and I
> would open ports and add the command line to falcon.exe -ip =
xxx.xxx.xxx.xx
> of my cable modem's IP address and we could play just fine.
>
> Now I have the static ip address and can hook into the Jetnet =
(Falcon's
> online game server) but he has a private IP address in the 10.2.x.x =
range.
> We cannot get him to hook into any server (or hook into my machine) to
play
> online. We have opened the needed ports (we think) but he doesn't seem =
to
> be behind a mappable IP address, only a private one. How can we get
around
> this so he can play online? He is able to use Roger Wilco and I have a
base
> station set up and we can talk to each other smooth as butter.
>
> Any help from you or anyone would be greatly appreciated. By the way,
> someone either in the chat or Tech group recommended using 2 =
soundcards to
> pipe the sound effects through one and the voice comms of roger wilco
> through the other. Well, I can tell you first hand it works like a =
champ
> (I'm using XP pro). I couldn't believe I didn't have any conflicts =
with
> this working.
>
> Jay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org
[mailto:simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org
<mailto:%5bmailto:simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org> ]
> On Behalf Of Stig Joergensen
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:27 PM
> To: simpits-chat@simpits.org
> Subject: RE: [simpits-chat] Framed
>
> Here is an example of using telnet as a mail program....
>
> start telnet in dos prompt :
>
> "c:\>telnet 192.168.2.2 25"
>
> (192.168.2.2 is my mailserver, change that to the mailserver on =
campus)
>
> the server will answer your request with something like (in the =
example
> this is a:)
>
> "220 ESMTP ready at Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:06:43 +0100"
>
> now type ( following is this t:)
>
> "HELO"
>
> a: 250 mail.clearsky.dk Hello [192.168.2.18]
> t: MAIL From: stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk
> a: 250 2.1.0 stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk....Sender OK
> t: RCPT To: stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk
> a: 250 2.1.5 stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk
> t: DATA
> a: 354 Start mail input; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
> t: this is a test mail
> t: .
> a: 250 2.6.0 <Ks6qisdBzPO0000000b@mail.clearsky.dk> Queued mail for
> delivery
>
> and woila - the mail is delivered
>
> t: QUIT
>
> for ending the session......
>
> as you can see from this example it is quite easy to send a mail - =
even
> without a mailing program....
>
> be aware of the above should work with all mailserver though the
> response from the mail server might not the same, unless they are
> running "MS exchange server 2k"
>
> if you can use this example, go ahead - and from the IT department get
> the firewall logs (but be careful here - you might open a can of worms
> as they will be searching for your ip address, and in doing so they =
will
> see what else you have done on the "net", such as downloading mp3s)
>
> /Stig
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gene Buckle [mailto:geneb@deltasoft.com]
> > Sent: 19. februar 2003 00:40
> > To: simpits-chat@simpits.org
> > Subject: Re: [simpits-chat] Framed
> >
> >
> > > Subscribe conformation was in place, Gene. The Dean
> > recieved the email
> > > asking to confirm for the mailing list, she sent that to IT
> > and they emailed
> > > the newsletter people. At least, I think that's the way it
> > was set up. I
> > > gave the wrong copy of my information to my Commander, I
> > left myself with
> > > the copy with less info, I think. Basically, IT asked the
> > newsletter people
> > > who subscribed that email address, and the newsletter
> > people responded with
> > > one line: my IP address.
> > >
> > I would still want to see the full headers. If there is a
> > line in there
> > that says: your.ip.address [other.ip.address], the ip
> > address between the
> > brackets is the real address. It could also read: your.hostname.edu
> > [other hostname or ip address]
> >
> > > all work out, I'm sure, I just wanted to go to my hearing with =
some
> > > semi-professional oppinions backing me up on what might
> > have happened.
> >
> > If it helps, I run my own mail servers so I know what I'm
> > talking about.
> > There are others on this list that are equally as skilled.
> > I'm sure we'd
> > be happy to eat 'em alive for you. :)
> >
> > g.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > simpits-chat@simpits.org
> > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat
> >
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Chris.&nbsp; Can&#8217;t wait to see it in person.&nbsp; I will bring my
Digital camera and upload pics to the simpits site when I get home from =
seeing
the pit. &nbsp;&nbsp;I want to come out on a day that I can take some =
detailed
measurements for my pit building.&nbsp; I would like to dissect apart =
every
piece that you&#8217;ll let me.&nbsp; As I type right now, my wife is =
talking
to a girl she works with whose husband in some sort of project =
manager/big wig
type who works for Lockheed and oversees guess which program???&nbsp; =
You got
it, the F-16.&nbsp; So, she is setting up a date we can all go out to =
dinner
and I am going to try to do some networking here and see what if =
anything I can
buy, beg, steal or batter for.&nbsp; I hope I can use you, Chris, and =
hopefully
meet a new friend and compile some data and measurements for us Viper =
drivers
out there.&nbsp; Guess I am going to have to set up a web site so I can =
deliver
this info if and when I get it.&nbsp; Boy, I&#8217;m getting excited =
just
thinking about it, heheheheh.</span></font></p>

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<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Chris Woodul<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February =
18, 2003
8:33 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
simpits-chat@simpits.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: =
[simpits-chat]
Chris's pit</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>HI Mike, I knew I would get =
a rise
out of someone with the LED comment! ; )</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am a solderer too, but I =
require a
bit of fun in my simulator discussions. I will put the pics up when it =
gets
here cuase I want to take my own clean pics of the trainer. The Cockpit =
is
complete and has all interior components. I am going to put a new Wide =
angle
LANTRIN HUD into it, along with real flight instruments and MFD,s. A few =
other
parts I will trade out as needed. Right now all the warning lights =
function,
and I will add the Floods and other various systems for realism. This =
cockpit
will be a sister to my F-111 cockpits. I am also getting another one =
which has
a canopy ( C model too), and possibly an A model too. I am going to give =
the A
model cockpit to Marc Wiegart.</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I dont know how to do photo =
uploads
anyway, Ill have to have Doc Fagner do it for me.</span></font></p>

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soldering
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  [simpits-chat] Framed</span></font></p>
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  <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;
  font-family:Arial'>Hi Doc Fagner!<br>
  <br>
  You need to come by and see the pictures of the new F-16C cockpit I =
just<br>
  bought. Its awesome. I also bought another real F-16 ACES II and a =
true<br>
  F-15 ACES II. I will be shipping it in the next week or two.<br>
  I have pictures on my pc.<br>
  I love being able to talk OFF TOPIC...How nice. I hope the LED =
soldering<br>
  crowd doesnt push me out of this fourm too! ; )<br>
  <br>
  Cheers,<br>
  <br>
  Chris<br>
  <br>
  PS Hi to all the other off topic freaks out there. I miss the =
chats!<br>
  <br>
  <br>
  ----- Original Message -----<br>
  From: &quot;Joseph Fagner&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:crease-guard@attbi.com">crease-guard@attbi.com</a>&gt;<br>=

  To: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</a>&gt;=
<br>
  Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:44 PM<br>
  Subject: RE: [simpits-chat] Framed<br>
  <br>
  <br>
  &gt; Hey Stig, this is off Brian's topic (sorry Brian, I'm stuck on =
this one)<br>
  but<br>
  &gt; maybe you can help me. I have a buddy of mine who just recently =
moved to<br>
  &gt; Spain. He used to live in New Jersey and we would play Falcon 4 =
online<br>
  all<br>
  &gt; the time. He had a static and I had a dynamic IP behind a router =
and I<br>
  &gt; would open ports and add the command line to falcon.exe -ip
  xxx.xxx.xxx.xx<br>
  &gt; of my cable modem's IP address and we could play just fine.<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; Now I have the static ip address and can hook into the Jetnet =
(Falcon's<br>
  &gt; online game server) but he has a private IP address in the =
10.2.x.x
  range.<br>
  &gt; We cannot get him to hook into any server (or hook into my =
machine) to<br>
  play<br>
  &gt; online. We have opened the needed ports (we think) but he doesn't =
seem
  to<br>
  &gt; be behind a mappable IP address, only a private one. How can we =
get<br>
  around<br>
  &gt; this so he can play online? He is able to use Roger Wilco and I =
have a<br>
  base<br>
  &gt; station set up and we can talk to each other smooth as =
butter.<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; Any help from you or anyone would be greatly appreciated. By the =
way,<br>
  &gt; someone either in the chat or Tech group recommended using 2 =
soundcards
  to<br>
  &gt; pipe the sound effects through one and the voice comms of roger =
wilco<br>
  &gt; through the other. Well, I can tell you first hand it works like =
a champ<br>
  &gt; (I'm using XP pro). I couldn't believe I didn't have any =
conflicts with<br>
  &gt; this working.<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; Jay<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
  &gt; From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org">simpits-chat-admin@simpits=
.org</a><br>
  <a =
href=3D"mailto:%5bmailto:simpits-chat-admin@simpits.org">[mailto:simpits-=
chat-admin@simpits.org</a>]<br>
  &gt; On Behalf Of Stig Joergensen<br>
  &gt; Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:27 PM<br>
  &gt; To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</a><br>=

  &gt; Subject: RE: [simpits-chat] Framed<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; Here is an example of using telnet as a mail program....<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; start telnet in dos prompt :<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; &quot;c:\&gt;telnet 192.168.2.2 25&quot;<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; (192.168.2.2 is my mailserver, change that to the mailserver on =
campus)<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; the server will answer your request with something like (in the =
example<br>
  &gt; this is a:)<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; &quot;220 ESMTP ready at Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:06:43 =
+0100&quot;<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; now type ( following is this t:)<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; &quot;HELO&quot;<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; a: 250 mail.clearsky.dk Hello [192.168.2.18]<br>
  &gt; t: MAIL From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk">stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk</=
a><br>
  &gt; a: 250 2.1.0 <a =
href=3D"mailto:stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk....Sender">stig.joergensen@cle=
arsky.dk....Sender</a>
  OK<br>
  &gt; t: RCPT To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk">stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk</=
a><br>
  &gt; a: 250 2.1.5 <a =
href=3D"mailto:stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk">stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk</=
a><br>
  &gt; t: DATA<br>
  &gt; a: 354 Start mail input; end with &lt;CRLF&gt;.&lt;CRLF&gt;<br>
  &gt; t: this is a test mail<br>
  &gt; t: .<br>
  &gt; a: 250 2.6.0 &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Ks6qisdBzPO0000000b@mail.clearsky.dk">Ks6qisdBzPO0000000b@=
mail.clearsky.dk</a>&gt;
  Queued mail for<br>
  &gt; delivery<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; and woila - the mail is delivered<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; t: QUIT<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; for ending the session......<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; as you can see from this example it is quite easy to send a mail =
- even<br>
  &gt; without a mailing program....<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; be aware of the above should work with all mailserver though =
the<br>
  &gt; response from the mail server might not the same, unless they =
are<br>
  &gt; running &quot;MS exchange server 2k&quot;<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; if you can use this example, go ahead - and from the IT =
department get<br>
  &gt; the firewall logs (but be careful here - you might open a can of =
worms<br>
  &gt; as they will be searching for your ip address, and in doing so =
they will<br>
  &gt; see what else you have done on the &quot;net&quot;, such as =
downloading
  mp3s)<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; /Stig<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
  &gt; &gt; From: Gene Buckle [<a =
href=3D"mailto:geneb@deltasoft.com">mailto:geneb@deltasoft.com</a>]<br>
  &gt; &gt; Sent: 19. februar 2003 00:40<br>
  &gt; &gt; To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</a><br>=

  &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [simpits-chat] Framed<br>
  &gt; &gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt; &gt; Subscribe conformation was in place, Gene. The Dean<br>
  &gt; &gt; recieved the email<br>
  &gt; &gt; &gt; asking to confirm for the mailing list, she sent that =
to IT<br>
  &gt; &gt; and they emailed<br>
  &gt; &gt; &gt; the newsletter people. At least, I think that's the way =
it<br>
  &gt; &gt; was set up. I<br>
  &gt; &gt; &gt; gave the wrong copy of my information to my Commander, =
I<br>
  &gt; &gt; left myself with<br>
  &gt; &gt; &gt; the copy with less info, I think. Basically, IT asked =
the<br>
  &gt; &gt; newsletter people<br>
  &gt; &gt; &gt; who subscribed that email address, and the =
newsletter<br>
  &gt; &gt; people responded with<br>
  &gt; &gt; &gt; one line: my IP address.<br>
  &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt; I would still want to see the full headers. If there is =
a<br>
  &gt; &gt; line in there<br>
  &gt; &gt; that says: your.ip.address [other.ip.address], the ip<br>
  &gt; &gt; address between the<br>
  &gt; &gt; brackets is the real address. It could also read: =
your.hostname.edu<br>
  &gt; &gt; [other hostname or ip address]<br>
  &gt; &gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt; &gt; all work out, I'm sure, I just wanted to go to my =
hearing with
  some<br>
  &gt; &gt; &gt; semi-professional oppinions backing me up on what =
might<br>
  &gt; &gt; have happened.<br>
  &gt; &gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt; If it helps, I run my own mail servers so I know what =
I'm<br>
  &gt; &gt; talking about.<br>
  &gt; &gt; There are others on this list that are equally as =
skilled.<br>
  &gt; &gt; I'm sure we'd<br>
  &gt; &gt; be happy to eat 'em alive for you. :)<br>
  &gt; &gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt; g.<br>
  &gt; &gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
  &gt; &gt; simpits-chat mailing list<br>
  &gt; &gt; <a =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</a><br>=

  &gt; &gt; <a =
href=3D"http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat">http://www.=
simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat</a><br>
  &gt; &gt;<br>
  &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
  &gt; simpits-chat mailing list<br>
  &gt; <a =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</a><br>=

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href=3D"http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat">http://www.=
simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat</a><br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
  &gt; simpits-chat mailing list<br>
  &gt; <a =
href=3D"mailto:simpits-chat@simpits.org">simpits-chat@simpits.org</a><br>=

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href=3D"http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat">http://www.=
simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/simpits-chat</a><br>
  &gt;<br>
  <br>
  <br>
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