[GEM Development] version of opengem for easy use for windowsusers

Wed May 10 17:34:00 PDT 2006

hi,

does the fact that as Gem is GPL, mean that I should have to compile
from the opengem source, and also compile the dosbox source, and then
give instructions to compile them - for the final package? help! -
this will take alot more work than i anticipated...and more learning.
But i am still up for the challenge. If i just have a package of the
dosbox source and the opengem source available to download from the
website that will start...sometime soon, is this still inside the
rules of the GPL licence, aslong as I give instructions for how to put
it together, and what to get rid of once compiled?

thanks everyone,

veganalex

On 10/05/06, Shane M. Coughlan <shane at shaneland.co.uk> wrote:
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> Owen Rudge wrote:
> > Indeed, can stuff we don't actually have the source for be described as
> > being released under the GPL (eg, Paint)? ie, is all the stuff here -
> > http://www.retroarchive.org/cpm/archive/unofficial/gemworld.html - GPL?
>
> Answer: yes, but it's a bit broken.  In other words, no one is holding
> the source or preventing the source being released.  The DR code was
> GPL'd, but substantial amount of sources were lost (IIRC) in a flood.
>
> The binary code that is quite literally missing its source is still
> covered by the GPL, but we are not able to provide a simple
> human-readable source.  This does not prevent the overarching goal of
> the GPL license applying: you can use the software for any purpose, you
> can modify the software, you can share the software, and you can release
> improvements.
>
> The key issue is that it's difficult to modify or improve the software
> due to a lack of source code.  At least reverse engineering is still
> possible without a clean room.
>
> It's a slightly unusual situation.  We were given a lot of code that was
> regarded as 'dead.'
>
> Regarding legality, there was an interesting email from Matthias Paul
>
> ==
>
> [snip]
> BTW. Since the 8080/Z80 CPUs were mentioned here these days, I'd
> like to mention that Bryan Sparks, then-times CEO of Lineo, Inc.
> has also issued a general license in 2001 to allow the collection,
> distribution, and further development of any CP/M-based technology
> as part of the late Tim Olmstead's site "Unofficial CP/M Archive."
> After Tim's unfortunate death (cancer), this site is now maintained
> by Gaby Chaudry and supported by CP/M fans all over the world:
>
>  http://www.gaby.de
>
> Caldera & Lineo have also contributed all CP/M related sources and
> binaries they could still find in their archives. Most of the stuff
> has gone lost somewhere somewhen at Novell times, though. :-(
>
> (In 1997, it was difficult enough to even track down all the Novell DOS
> 7 sources, and parts of the system had to (and have been) become re-
> engineered in order to go forward and not have to go a step backward
> with the release of DR-DOS 7.02. Caldera OpenDOS 7.01 did not include
> all the latest Novell DOS 7 sources, unfortunately.)
>
> Still, over the years a wealth of different versions and OEM adaptations
> of CP/M-80, MP/M-80, CP/M-86, MP/M-86, Personal CP/M-86, Concurrent
> CP/M-86, CP/M-68K, etc. as well as related tools, drivers, networking
> software, and applications have already been collected at Gaby's site,
> including some of the earliest and historically most relevant issues of
> CP/M from around 1974 with the late Gary Kildall's (the inventor of CP/M
> and founder of Intergalactic Digital Research and Digital Research,
> Inc.) original source code comments.
>
> If someone reading this still has some CP/M, MP/M, or otherwise related
> files in personal archives, they are highly welcome at Gaby's site and
> can be legally shared there now.
>
> ==
>
> Much the same terms apply to GEM.
>
> However, as I mentioned before OpenGEM 6 is going on a diet.  It's going
> to be a bit smaller than previous OpenGEM Complete releases.  The focus
> will be on having a GUI distribution, rather than a GUI+lots of
> applications distribution.
>
> Shane
>
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