[simpits-tech] Jay's F-16...

[Joseph Fagner]

Yeah, I was a little intimidated by the bucking type rivets as I didn't really know how to do those properly.
   
  Skinning will be the last thing I do.  I'm thinking of running the strake as a permanant fixture, then making the top and bottom panels into two sections each that can be removed to gain access to the inside.  I just haven't quite figured out how to do it yet.  But I'm a ways away from that.
   
  Jay

Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
  > I'm using cherry type rivets and a cheapo pneumatic rivet gun from the 
> local tool shop. I found a bunch of counter sunk rivets on fleabay a 
> while back that had the perfect pull for using .125" stock sheet and 
> angle. I've got handfulls of other types of rivets for other spots. 
> The left console panel was a kit I bought from Martin over in the EU. 
> I used regular cheapo pop rivets for that as I couldn't locate cheap 
> rivets of the proper size and pull and did not want to spend the fortune 
> it costs to buy the rivets from an aircraft company.
>
So they're countersunk "pop" rivets then?

FYI, AN standard rivets are about $20 a pound from Aircraft Spruce for the 
.125 x 1/2" version. Those are of course "real" rivets that you need a 
bucking bar & rivet gun for. I've not priced the other types.

> I did, however, have to finally bite the bullet and buy pull type 
> rivets for the nutplates as I simply could not find those as 
> surplus...as well as the floating type nutplate. They were pricey but 
> after installing them, I wish I had just bit the bullet sooner and used 
> them as they are really perfect for many spots.
>
Nut plates are indeed very nice when working with metal. I'm still 
debating on whether or not to skin the cockpit prototype with .040" sheet 
metal. (galvanized steel - aluminum is frighteningly expensive for the 
sheet sizes I need)

> I TIG welded the angle brackets to the ribs but then riveted that to 
> the side walls. I found out the hard way that welding large flat pieces 
> does not work well.
>
Hehee. Yow. :)

> I wish I had seen that little video series you posted up yesterday. I 
> watched the part about deburring and I have not been doing that right. 
> Luckily, this isn't going to fly and probably won't make a difference.

I haven't had a chance to look at that one. The site is great, but the 
daisy-chained auto-play videos are annoying as hell.

tnx!

g.

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