[simpits-tech] It just showed up at my doorstep

Fri Jun 3 07:43:28 PDT 2005

I just had a thought. If they're concerned about giving information out to 
ordinary people, you might have better luck waiting a couple weeks to email 
them. They probably don't get too many requests like these, military 
contractors can have weird policies. I don't know. I'm still surprised I 
even got anything.

>From: "Simon Bennett" <servantofcthulhu at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: Simulator Cockpit tech list <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
>Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] It just showed up at my doorstep
>Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 06:37:07 -0700
>
>I actually just got a fax from them, with a diagram of the indicator and 
>the pinout. I'm amazed.
>
>
>I don't really have a contact, I just used the email address off of their 
>website. I don't know what to tell you. They might be less inclined to help 
>if a bunch of people started asking for stuff. I don't even know how I got 
>them to send me anything.
>
>>From: "Joseph Fagner" <falcon4 at sbcglobal.net>
>>Reply-To: Simulator Cockpit tech list <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>>To: "'Simulator Cockpit tech list'" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>>Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] It just showed up at my doorstep
>>Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 06:33:55 -0500
>>
>>Damn, go figure.  I even used the excuse I was volunteering for a flight
>>museum and putting together a simulator for them (it's not a lie either).
>>That still didn't get me a return email.
>>
>>If you have any luck, can you put me in contact with your contact?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Jay
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
>>[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Simon Bennett
>>Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:06 PM
>>To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
>>Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] It just showed up at my doorstep
>>
>>I actually got a reply, believe it or not, and pretty quickly, too. They
>>said that since it was a piece of "military equipment" that they couldn't
>>just give any information to just anybody, and that I'd have to disclose
>>more information about me and my "company". I didn't bother telling him I
>>don't work for one, which is probably for the best. Maybe they're afraid
>>terrorists will use their avionics to navigate to and crash into 
>>buildings.
>>I can't think of any rational explanation for this.
>>
>>So I replied, telling them what I planned to do with it and that it'd 
>>never
>>go near an airworthy aircraft. I also pointed out that I already own the
>>instrument and could always just take it apart and trace the connections 
>>by
>>hand, and that none of this information is secret in any way.
>>
>>The guy emailed me again asking for my fax number, I gave it to him. 
>>Haven't
>>
>>heard back since. That was 7 hours ago. I sent it at about 4 PM Wisconsin
>>time, so I guess they just got let out. I'm still hopeful, but I'll be
>>amazed if they actually send me any real, useful information.
>>
>>
>>Not all military contractors are impossible to get information from, at
>>least. Some aren't so bad. Hell, I had a nice long chat with a guy from 
>>GRiD
>>
>>Defense Systems last year about how to get one of my surplus computers
>>running. Ever tried taking apart a TEMPEST-rated, military surplus laptop?
>>The shell is a magnesium alloy, with a milled aluminum chassis holding
>>everything together, it's all hermetically sealed, and everything inside 
>>is
>>covered in copper foil, to defeat electromagnetic emmissions. Mine were
>>never de-milled, either. I want to incorporate them into my simpit 
>>somehow,
>>just to add to the cool factor.
>>
>>
>> >From: "Joseph Fagner" <falcon4 at sbcglobal.net>
>> >Reply-To: Simulator Cockpit tech list <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>> >To: "'Simulator Cockpit tech list'" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
>> >Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] It just showed up at my doorstep
>> >Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:30:35 -0500
>> >
>> >Lots of luck with Astronautics.  I've emailed them 3 times about pinouts
>> >and
>> >have never even gotten as much as a "piss off" from them.  Let me know 
>>if
>> >you have any better luck.
>> >
>> >Does this take 115 or 26 volt 400Hz?  If you don't have any luck finding 
>>an
>> >inverter, I might have an extra one laying around I could sell you.  I 
>>also
>> >have a 115 to 26 volt transformer laying around as well.  It's labeled 
>>for
>> >50/60 Hz but I was told you can pump 400 Hz into a transformer for 60 hz
>> >and
>> >be fine, you just can't do the other way around.  This sucker is a big
>> >heavy
>> >rectifier transformer, so it can take some amperage.
>> >
>> >Jay
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
>> >[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org] On Behalf Of Simon Bennett
>> >Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:24 PM
>> >To: simpits-tech at simpits.org
>> >Subject: [simpits-tech] It just showed up at my doorstep
>> >
>> >The attitude indicator I bought. It's an ARU-13/A. I need to figure out
>> >what
>> >
>> >the pinout is. I don't suppose anyone here knows... I guess I'll send an
>> >email to the manufacturer (Astronautics corp. of America) and pray 
>>they'll
>> >give it to me. Otherwise I'll probably have to take it apart.
>> >
>> >Once I get the pinout, I can start looking for a 400hz inverter and a
>> >couple
>> >
>> >of torque transmitters.
>> >
>> >Does anyone know what aircraft these were used in?
>> >
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