[simpits-tech] cost of SSC base

[Marv De Beque]

Oh, I can just smell it now!  :-))))

Marv

On 1/31/04 4:25 PM, "Craig Rochester" <johncraigroch at msn.com> wrote:

> Marv,
> 
> You wrote: 
> 
> "That leads to one of my next projects, producing a quality metal grip that
> accepts the real switches."
> 
> I vote for bakelite. :-)
> 
> Craig R.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org]On Behalf Of Marv De Beque
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:22 PM
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> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] cost of SSC base
> 
> 
> You are right, but a job shop will charge you a set fee to code the CNC
> machine, make a first part, and check it for integrity.
> 
> This needs to be done for every part that is made via CNC before they go
> into production mode.
> 
> You should see a price break as you near the 10 piece point and the price
> will further drop as you hit the 50 to 100 piece mark.
> 
> My guess is that the market will be saturated long before the 50 unit mark.
> 
> Once you get the base up and running, there is another issue with the Cougar
> grip.  While you effectively eliminate the joystick pots, you still need to
> contend with the switches in the grip.   Those can not be replaced with
> quality switches since the bosses in the grip's casting get in the way of
> using real switches.  I have done some hot rodding of my grip, but the
> success has been limited and it takes a lot of my time.
> 
> That leads to one of my next projects, producing a quality metal grip that
> accepts the real switches.
> 
> Marv
> 
> On 1/31/04 1:41 PM, "Jim K." <JimK at sisna.com> wrote:
> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> I've seen some numbers being tossed around for the cost of machining the
>> SSC base.  Actually until the drawings are released its pretty tough to
>> tell what the machining costs are going to be.   The guys working on it
>> were trying and seemingly succeeded in making a very realistic looking and
>> performing SSC base.  For that I say GREAT JOB!!!!
>> 
>> There will be several things right off the start which will reduce per unit
>> costs.   First the larger the order the less the per piece price will
>> be.  Also, The less time the parts take to make the cheaper they will
>> be.  So perhaps talking to your machinist you can reduce some of the
>> cutting time that the parts need which are there solely for appearance
>> sake.   Just have your machinist do the precision cutting that you can't do
>> at home.  We can probably do the screw hole cutting and tapping, as an
>> example.   There are probably other things we can do ourselves as
>> well.  I'm just thinking of general ideas at them moment.
>> 
>> Also, take the files to your machinist on floppy disks, not paper.   That
>> way they can put them directly into something like SolidCAM and generate
>> their CNC info.
>> 
>> Lets wait for the drws, get some quotes and go from there.  Bottom line is,
>> once we get the drws we will have something that a year ago was nothing
>> more than a dream.  :-)  There are always ways to make things at lower
>> costs.  Hopefully those costs can be reduced to the point where the parts
>> become affordable for more people.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
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