[simpits-tech] Viperpit.org SSC project a success.

Marv De Beque mdebeque at woh.rr.com
Thu Jan 22 17:54:30 PST 2004


Tis the beauty of "Male Answer Syndrome".  You simply cry that you are
disabled.  :-)

I did not really look at your final design, but I did remember you had an
idea using a bending beam as the main spring system and a secondary beam
that amplified the amount of movement at the LVDT slug.  Did you choose that
design?

Also, did you take repeatability measurements to see if the beam returns to
center reliably?  You remember all of those headaches I went through.  :-)

Marv


On 1/22/04 3:25 PM, "Craig Rochester" <johncraigroch at msn.com> wrote:

> Hey Marv,
> 
> "...Physiologically, it may be that as you experience negative G loading that
> one's physical strength may alter.
> 
> What do you think?  :-)"
> 
> I don't have a clue. :-)  Last time I speculated on this, I was 100% wrong.
> ;-)
> 
> Craig R.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
> [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org]On Behalf Of Marv De Beque
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 12:41 PM
> To: Simulator Cockpit tech list
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Viperpit.org SSC project a success.
> 
> 
> Craig,
> 
> That is a good question and I don't know, but I agree with your logic.
> 
> Since I don't know, I'll succumb to Male Answer Syndrome.
> 
> I think our frame of reference is based on a 1 G environment in a static
> seating position under normal physiological conditions.  It may well be that
> under negative G loading that the torso rides up in the seat and the pilots
> ability to push forward on the stick is likewise diminished.
> 
> Physiologically, it may be that as you experience negative G loading that
> one's physical strength may alter.
> 
> What do you think?  :-)
> 
> Marv
> 
> 
> On 1/22/04 7:54 AM, "Craig Rochester" <johncraigroch at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Marv,
>> 
>> It has been great fun working with the Viperpit.org guys.  A community
>> project
>> where many people
>> brought their expertise to bear the project.
>> 
>> Question Marv, I still don't understand the design rationale behind the
>> pitch-down axis(16 lbs. at
>> .030").  I have some info that calls for 29 lbs. at 0.030".  The higher value
>> makes more sense to
>> me. I've read that the pitch-down is more susceptible to over controlling and
>> that's why the set the
>> smaller deflection.  Why would they not use the higher force?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Craig R.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
>> [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org]On Behalf Of Marv De Beque
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 9:41 PM
>> To: Simulator Cockpit tech list
>> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Viperpit.org SSC project a success.
>> 
>> 
>> Congratulations!  You guys did well!
>> 
>> Marv
>> 
>> On 1/21/04 9:34 PM, "Craig Rochester" <johncraigroch at msn.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dave has finished building the rig:
>>> http://falcon24.users.btopenworld.com/ssc05.jpg
>>> 
>>> Dave tested the SSC's performance and we met the specs for the SSC:
>>> 
>>> Pitch Down 16.0 lbs @ .027" ± .013"
>>> Pitch Up 25.0 lbs @ .171" ± .058"
>>> Roll 7.7 Kg = 17.0 lbs @ .110" ± .030"
>>> 
>>> The bench results were:
>>> 
>>> Pitch Down 7.3 Kg = 16.06 lbs @ .030"
>>> Pitch Up 11.4 Kg = 25.08 lbs @ .170"
>>> Roll 7.7 Kg = 16.94 lbs @ .118"
>>> 
>>> Will be publishing drawings, BOM, etc. soon.
>>> 
>>> Craig R.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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