[simpits-tech] Requests for measurements - SHAME ON YOU

[Mark Collins]

Chris,
I for one used your plans and have a really nice (1/2 finished...I
know...I'm the High Priest of procrastinators!) ACES seat thanks to you.
You did an outstanding job and I really appreciate all the effort that went
into.  As a project manager, the first thing to go in any project is
generally the "Bullet Proof" documentation,  that is because, as you stated,
it usually takes 2 to 3 times as much effort to document as it did to do the
original work.

But thanks again for your effort.  The seat rocked!!!

Mark Collins

> -----Original Message-----
> From: simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org
> [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces at simpits.org]On Behalf Of Chris "SpeedOne"
> Van Lierop
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 7:45 AM
> To: Simulator Cockpit tech list
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Requests for measurements - SHAME ON YOU
>
>
> Hi Andre,
>
> One of the reasons plans and measurements aren't floating around in great
> numbers is this: I made a "How To" document of an ACESII ejection
> seat. The
> fact is that making the PDF document took me all in all at least twice as
> long as building the seat itself!!! That's why I stopped making
> these plans.
> Not because I don't want to share, on the contrary, but because I want to
> spend my (precious little) time building my pit...
>
> If you want to build your pit the easy way by 'demanding' other peoples
> research, you might want to use another tone in your messages... be nice!
> ;-)
>
> Chris "SpeedOne" Van Lierop
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andre Breytenbach" <a_breytie at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "Simpits Mail" <simpits-tech at simpits.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 9:30 AM
> Subject: [simpits-tech] Requests for measurements - SHAME ON YOU
>
>
> > I am very upset by what I read in this forum and the
> > various SimPits webring sites.
> > Everyone says thay did it, but does not want to share
> > the resulting info. Compete pits built to to better
> > than 5mm accuracy shown with a 100 high res pictures
> > BUT no measurements or plans published. Yes,
> > www.xflight.de shares info, but with built-in
> > inaccuracies. Many very long nights of pixel counting
> > and I am no closer to real measurements than before.
> > He had CAD drawings on his site a few years ago, but
> > all gone now - why? I have them on an old backup tape
> > but no drive to restore the info!
> > Myself and others come up with fresh ideas and get a
> > SAM9 up the tailpipe, not helped. Come on people, get
> > with the spirit of why this forum was started. Please
> > share the nitty-gritty! If you have commercial
> > interests that prevent you from sharing the info, tell
> > us, just stop the BS.
> >
> > I earn less than US$1000 a month, rent, utilities,
> > kid's school fees and tranport takes more than half. I
> > still want to (and will) build my pit, but there is no
> > way I can import any custom replica or original
> > panels. EPIC, Sim Instruments, PHIDGETS, you name
> > them, too money, programming (windoze), and wiring (6
> > miles I heard mentioned) intensive. I know I can do it
> > myself with scrap Aluminium, Perspex, stripped CDROMs
> > and floppy drives, and engraving done at companies
> > that don't have work for their machines. Electronic
> > components I must buy, I will buy as I can, but
> > research will reduce the wastage.
> >
> > If you have real F-16 Panels and is willing to let
> > others use them for measurements(without us touching
> > them), contact me and I will tell you how to scan them
> > on a flat-bed scanner. If you have some free and free
> > space on a web-server, let me know so that we can get
> > the resulting CAD drawings published for all to use.
> >
> > I will start my own Yahoo web-site (very limited
> > space)by the 10th Jan at
> > http://uk.geocities.com/a_breytie/ where I will share
> > all my reasearch and development work. Bookmark it now
> > in case I get kicked out of this forum for my harsh
> > words towards it's most senior members.
> >
> > Lets get on with it people, let's enable the world to
> > be filled with F-16 pits.
> >
> > If I got it wrong about the people in this forum,
> > PROVE IT and I will applologise where and how you
> > want.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Andre SimNut Breytenbach
> > Pretoria, South Africa
> > a_breytie at yahoo.co.uk
> >
> >
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