[simpits-tech] If you use a mask for your sim, do you use themic also?

Albert simpits-tech@simpits.org
Mon, 5 May 2003 19:55:02 +1000


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Re: [simpits-tech] If you use a mask for your sim, do you use the mic =
also?will do... as soon as I can dig that piece of paper out. Its a =
"champ" preamp kit I got from Jaycar. No matter how much foil I wrap =
around it, there are still a little bit of AM radio sound in the =
background :).... I am start to think if it was a "AM radio receiver" =
kit instead of a preamp kit hehe.

Thanks mate,

Al
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ben Jones=20
  To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
  Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 7:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] If you use a mask for your sim, do you use =
themic also?


  albert,=20

  can ya email me the specs of the pre amp that you built and tried with =
no luck , it might not be designed for  the range that you need, to =
boost ya mike

  ben
  bjones@pipecomp.com.au

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Albert=20
    To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
    Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 12:59 AM
    Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] If you use a mask for your sim, do you =
use themic also?


    You are right Marv,

    and thanks everyone for the help. I pluged the mic into an old =
casstte deck with a FM radio and a amp mixer today. Wow... the mic =
preformed increditably clear! Wow. no muffling or distortion. I was =
really impressed. Man...no matter what I tried before cant make it work. =
Especially that little preamp i build myself, it just wont work :(

    Some people are not meant to be electrician and that would be me no =
doubt.

    Now I might have to incooprate a small amp into the pit to plug the =
mask into it via some extra cable.=20

    Cheers,

    Al
    Sydney, Oz


      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Marv De Beque=20
      To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
      Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 7:50 PM
      Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] If you use a mask for your sim, do you =
use themic also?


      These mics are designed to perform without distortion or echo.  I =
have seen a slight muffling since the frequency range is not as wide as =
a commercial broadcast mic, but the mil designed these to be =
understandable under noisy conditions.



      On 5/2/03 5:43 AM, "Ben Jones" <bjones@pipecomp.com.au> wrote:


        hey Albert,

        You might have a problem with your voice "Echo-ing" in side the =
mask,
        you might have to lay some foam over the mike , or even punch a =
half inch hole in the bottom of the mask to let out some of the echo-ing =
voice.

        but then i have not had a mask yet to play with connected to my =
pc, <sigh> they have only been connected to a real aircraft when i have =
worn them.

        =20
        ben
        bjones@pipecomp.com.au


          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: Albert <mailto:shizznit@ihug.com.au> =20
          To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
          Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 12:48 AM
          Subject: [simpits-tech] If you use a mask for your sim, do you =
use the mic also?

          Just wondering if anyone have ever used the mic inside their =
MBU oxygen mask or any sort of mask mics linked up to their PC soundcard =
and getting a decent quality.

          My first problem was boosting the mic input so the sound card =
can actually pick up the things I am saying by building a little preamp. =
That was easy enough... however, now I am having a problem of clarity. =
No amount of software adjustments I make can reduce the amount of =
"rumbling" noise I suppose if you imagine the sound of vibration within =
the mask.
          =20
          Initially I thought it was a case with the miltary specs =
microphone. So I blu tak a conventional PC mic to inside the mask. The =
result was almost indentical. The rumbling within the mic is the problem =
again I am presuming. if I take the mic away from within the mask. It =
sounds prefect, but with the mask. If I have it hanging on the Bayonet =
clips on one side. The mic from inside the mask can not pick up any =
sound at all.=20
          =20
          Is there anything I can do to make it work better to a clearer =
standard so other online flyers can understand what I am saying?=20
          =20
          Filter?a sponge around the mic? special type of mic to use? I =
am not sure where to go from here.

          Cheers,
          =20
          Al
          Sydney, Oz





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will do... as soon as I can dig that =
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>albert, </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>can ya email me the specs of the pre amp that you =
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You are right Marv,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and thanks&nbsp;everyone for the =
help. I pluged=20
    the mic&nbsp;into an old casstte deck with a FM radio and a amp =
mixer today.=20
    Wow... the mic preformed increditably clear! Wow. no muffling or=20
    distortion.&nbsp;I was really impressed. Man...no matter what I =
tried before=20
    cant make it work. Especially that little preamp i =
build&nbsp;myself, it=20
    just wont work :(</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
    <DIV><BR>Some people are not meant to be electrician and that would =
be me no=20
    doubt.</DIV>
    <DIV></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now I might have to incooprate a =
small amp into=20
    the pit to plug the mask into it via some extra cable. =
</FONT></DIV><FONT=20
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    <DIV><BR>Cheers,</DIV>
    <DIV><BR>Al</DIV>
    <DIV>Sydney, Oz</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>These mics are designed to =
perform=20
      without distortion or echo. &nbsp;I have seen a slight muffling =
since the=20
      frequency range is not as wide as a commercial broadcast mic, but =
the mil=20
      designed these to be understandable under noisy=20
      conditions.<BR><BR><BR><BR>On 5/2/03 5:43 AM, "Ben Jones" &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:bjones@pipecomp.com.au">bjones@pipecomp.com.au</A>&gt;=20
      wrote:<BR><BR></FONT>
      <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>hey=20
        Albert,<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DVerdana><BR></FONT><FONT=20
        size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>You might have a problem with your =
voice=20
        "Echo-ing" in side the mask,<BR>you might have to lay some foam =
over the=20
        mike , or even punch a half inch hole in the bottom of the mask =
to let=20
        out some of the echo-ing voice.<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
        face=3DVerdana><BR></FONT><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>but =
then i have=20
        not had a mask yet to play with connected to my pc, &lt;sigh&gt; =
they=20
        have only been connected to a real aircraft when i have worn=20
        them.<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT =
face=3DVerdana><BR>&nbsp;<BR></FONT><FONT=20
        size=3D2><FONT=20
        =
face=3DArial>ben<BR>bjones@pipecomp.com.au<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
        face=3DVerdana><BR></FONT>
        <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=3DVerdana>----- Original Message -----=20
          <BR><B>From:</B> Albert &lt;mailto:shizznit@ihug.com.au&gt;=20
          &nbsp;<BR><B>To:</B> simpits-tech@simpits.org <BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Friday,=20
          May 02, 2003 12:48 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> [simpits-tech] If you =
use a=20
          mask for your sim, do you use the mic =
also?<BR><BR></FONT><FONT=20
          size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>Just wondering if anyone have ever =
used the=20
          mic inside their MBU oxygen mask or any sort of mask mics =
linked up to=20
          their PC soundcard and getting a decent quality.<BR><BR>My =
first=20
          problem was boosting the mic input so the sound card can =
actually pick=20
          up the things I am saying by building a little preamp. That =
was easy=20
          enough... however, now I am having a problem of clarity. No =
amount of=20
          software adjustments I make can reduce the amount of =
"rumbling" noise=20
          I suppose if you imagine the sound of vibration within the=20
          mask.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Initially I thought it was a case with the =
miltary=20
          specs microphone. So I blu tak a conventional PC mic to inside =
the=20
          mask. The result was almost indentical. The rumbling within =
the mic is=20
          the problem again I am presuming. if I take the mic away from =
within=20
          the mask. It sounds prefect, but with the mask. If I have it =
hanging=20
          on the Bayonet clips on one side. The mic from inside the mask =
can not=20
          pick up any sound at all. <BR>&nbsp;<BR>Is there anything I =
can do to=20
          make it work better to a clearer standard so other online =
flyers can=20
          understand what I am saying? <BR>&nbsp;<BR>Filter?a sponge =
around the=20
          mic? special type of mic to use? I am not sure where to go =
from=20
          here.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Al<BR>Sydney,=20
        Oz<BR></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT=20
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