[simpits-tech] What a great bunch!
Colin J Smith
simpits-tech@simpits.org
Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:01:03 +0800
Man! This is a fantastic community!
Yes please! I would like some photos to see how it's turned out. I've not
the space for a full blown dinghy sized cockpit in the room.
Perhaps I'll do the sides (I've got the throttle and stick on a couple of
Ikea side tables for now) and the all important chair.
Right now I'm also deciding between a car seat or building my own Aces 2
seat out of wood.
Somehow, an office chair don't seem right and the wheels make the rudders
harder to operate. You'd have to hold on to the desk as you push on the
pedals. Especially with the Thrustmaster ones.
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> 1. Re: Video Display (AL Y)
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> From: "AL Y" <shizznit@ihug.com.au>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Video Display
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:57:06 +1100
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> More or less what I have got setup now... projector would be ideal... but
> space and money doesnt allow it to happen.
>
> I have a 19 inch TFT display which I place on one of those "pivot" arm
> support monitor tray for the desktop. Its clamped onto the edge of my desk
> next to the pit. So you can imagine when I am working. it swing to my
desk.
> and when I fly, I swing it into my pit... almost up above the ICP console
> where the hud glass is. The image is crystal and big enough for me for now
> :) until my wallet get fatter.
>
> I thought about using wall mounted TV stand... but I realised the distance
> of those usually doesnt give me enough flexiblity to reach as "close to"
my
> face as possible. Also, the pivot arm has 3 pivot points. Extend to a
maxium
> of 80cm...near 3 ft from the fold up position... and u can pick up a cheap
> one here at any office store for 50AUD...10USD. holds up to about 30 kg up
> to about 50kg which I got for 89AUD.
>
> My tightass solution for a tight space :) let me know if u want some
photos.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Al
> Sydney, Australia
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin J Smith" <cj@funhouse.bz>
> To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:38 PM
> Subject: [simpits-tech] Video Display
>
>
> > Hi all.
> > Just started to get back into this madness after shelling out the clams
> for
> > a Thrustmaster Cougar (after eventually getting the OK from the missus).
> > Just wondering how you guys did for video display.
> > Putting the monitor on top of the cockpit and having the canopy and
front
> > panel between you does not make for much immersion (even with a flight
> > helmet on).
> > A fresnel lens really diffuses the image plus you can see the concentric
> > circles.
> > I thought of projectors but you need a really dark room plus the space
for
> a
> > screen for a decent picture.
> > I am now mulling over having the monitor placed on one of those folding
tv
> > wall mounts so I can push it back to get in or out and pull it close to
my
> > eyes when I am seated.
> > Anybody care to share experiences?
> >
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> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > > 1. RE: bird vs. bell206 (Mark Collins)
> > > 2. F16 Canopy Frame (Jim K.)
> > > 3. RE: Seat Adjustment (Roy Coates)
> > > 4. Re: rotary switches (Roy Coates)
> > > 5. Re: Seat Adjustment (Ben Jones)
> > > 6. Re: F16 Canopy Frame (Marv De Beque)
> > > 7. Re: Seat Adjustment (Ben Jones)
> > > 8. Re: Seat Adjustment (Ed Henderson)
> > >
> > > -- __--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > From: "Mark Collins" <mgcollins@attbi.com>
> > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] bird vs. bell206
> > > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:35:44 -0600
> > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >
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> > > Not an R22...I don't think I'd ride in one of those. If that bird had
> hit
> > > an R22 I don't think the Robinson would have survived!! I'm currently
> > > training in an Engstrom F28f. Before that it was a Schweizer 300CB.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org
> > > [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of L39driver@aol.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:37 AM
> > > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] bird vs. bell206
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/03/2003 08:05:04 Pacific Standard Time,
> > > mgcollins@attbi.com writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > the seats
> > >
> > >
> > > looking for birds in an R22 you are funny
> > >
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> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D660103321-11032003><FONT face=3DArial
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> =
> > > size=3D2>Not an=20
> > > R22...I don't think I'd ride in one of those. If that bird had
hit
> =
> > > an R22=20
> > > I don't think the Robinson would have survived!! I'm currently =
> > > training in=20
> > > an Engstrom F28f. Before that it was a Schweizer=20
> > > 300CB.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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> > > solid">
> > > <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
> > > face=3DTahoma=20
> > > size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
> > > simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org =
> > > [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]<B>On=20
> > > Behalf Of </B>L39driver@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 11, =
> > > 2003 11:37=20
> > > AM<BR><B>To:</B> simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
> > > [simpits-tech] bird vs. bell206<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial size=3D2 =
> > > FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a=20
> > > message dated 11/03/2003 08:05:04 Pacific Standard Time, =
> > > mgcollins@attbi.com=20
> > > writes:<BR><BR>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > > style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff
2px
> =
> > > solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
> > > TYPE=3D"CITE">the seats</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>looking for birds in
an=20
> > > R22 you are funny =
> > > </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- __--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:03:30 -0700
> > > To: Simpits <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > From: "Jim K." <JimK@sisna.com>
> > > Subject: [simpits-tech] F16 Canopy Frame
> > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > > Say, has anyone out there tried to make a canopy frame for a F16
pit???
> > > I've got a trashed A model canopy and I'm thinking a frame for it
would
> be
> > > cool. :-)
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > -- __--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 01:15:01 +0000 (GMT)
> > > From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> > > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment
> > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >
> > > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Mark Collins wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Ed...
> > > > I have a similar problem. My seat is an actual Eurcopter seat for a
> > > > helicopter. This is in my helo pit. It is designed to slide fore
and
> > aft
> > > > on some type of rail system. It looks like it should take some type
> of
> > > > I-Beam. I have not been able to find anything for this. I'll be
> > stopping
> > > > by my local "Pep Boys" auto parts store to see what they have. A
> friend
> > was
> > > > going to try and get some folks at work to fabricate something for
> > me...but
> > > > they are to busy. I'll let you know what I find!
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hey Mark, got any pics of your pit? My generic helo pit is rapidly
> > > following the EC135 eurocopter layout and I'm always looking for
ideas.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Roy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- __--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 01:17:31 +0000 (GMT)
> > > From: Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
> > > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] rotary switches
> > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >
> > > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Douglas Lewis wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a problem with normal mechanical "clicking" rotary switches.
> Has
> > > > anyone come up with a method how you can have this kind of a switch
> > > > "work" in a clockwise and counterclockwise direction. I can get it
to
> > > > work in a clockwise direction but not the other way. I'm sure some
of
> > you
> > > > have experienced this problem and I wonder how you solved it if you
> > have.
> > > > I'm not talking about rotary encoders unless they can be made to
have
> > > > distinct 30 or 45 degree "clicks". Any help or advice would be
> > > > appreciated.
> > > > Thanks, Doug
> > > >
> > >
> > > Without some form of ratchet or clutch type arrangement, you'll not
get
> > > rotary _switches_ to do this. The answer is rotary encoders.
> > >
> > > Roy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- __--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > From: "Ben Jones" <bjones@pipecomp.com.au>
> > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:28:17 +0800
> > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >
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> > >
> > > Mark ,
> > >
> > > with your seat...
> > >
> > > cessna seats slide forward and back on two I beam rails, with holes
on
> =
> > > the top surface for two location pin from the seat to drop into on =
> > > both rails,
> > > try a aviation scrap yard for these , if not i have a set of seat =
> > > rails(in my old mans hanger) i could take some measurements for you
and
> =
> > > some pics.
> > > this sounds like a similar principle to me ..
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > ben jones
> > > bjones@pipecomp.com.au
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > > From: Mark Collins=20
> > > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:49 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey Ed...
> > > I have a similar problem. My seat is an actual Eurcopter seat for a
=
> > > helicopter. This is in my helo pit. It is designed to slide fore and
=
> > > aft on some type of rail system. It looks like it should take some
type
> =
> > > of I-Beam. I have not been able to find anything for this. I'll be =
> > > stopping by my local "Pep Boys" auto parts store to see what they
have.
> =
> > > A friend was going to try and get some folks at work to fabricate =
> > > something for me...but they are to busy. I'll let you know what I
find!
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org =
> > > [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]On Behalf Of Ed Henderson
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:53 AM
> > > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment
> > >
> > >
> > > All right... I give in. I guess I am just a pessimist when it =
> > > comes to my construction... trying to save the wear and tear on my
ACES
> =
> > > II. I used the ACES plans from simpits using osb (before I knew the
joy
> =
> > > of working with mdf) and hardboard, I am sure it will hold up. The
seat
> =
> > > adjustment was also so that I could attach the seat to the floor and
if
> =
> > > the position was not exactly right a month down the road it could
easily
> =
> > > be repositioned. I feel that it needs to be secured to the floor
cause
> =
> > > it is a little aft top heavy and I know that my 10 year old will be =
> > > using the headrest for a handle to get in and out.
> > >
> > > BTW :-) before anybody hits me with "the F/A-18 doesn't use the =
> > > ACES II" I could not find any plans for the NACES, and I was too =
> > > impatient to design it myself. I will however be starting on a NACES
=
> > > replica when the cockpit is finished. =20
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > Keenan Akin wrote:
> > >
> > > Ed,
> > >
> > > Why are you concerned about stepping on the seat? That's how =
> > > everyone I know gets in and out of an F/A-18. Holding the windshield
=
>
> > > bow, right foot on the seat, left foot on the floor, right foot on the
=
> > > floor, sit down.
> > >
> > > Keenan
> > > `
> > >
> > > Ed Henderson wrote:
> > >
> > > Yea I know, but I am trying to avoid stepping in and out on
the
> =
> > > seat so I wanted to have about 8 inches in front of the seat to step
in
> =
> > > and then slide forward. I was planning on a pedal adjustment as well,
=
> > > but I have not thought about how to do that yet.
> > >
> > > Gene Buckle wrote:
> > >
> > > Ejection seats don't adjust like that Ed. :) You need to adjust the
> > > pedals instead. The only adjustment the seat can make is up-down with
> > > about a 5 or 6 inch range.
> > >
> > > g.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Ed Henderson wrote:
> > >
> > > Anybody have fore / aft seat adjustment ideas. I was thinking about
> > > drawer slides but they will not take the weight. Second option is 4
> > > casters in an aluminum trough and some type of locking mechanism...
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > >
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> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mark ,</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2> with your seat...</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2> cessna seats slide forward and back on =
> > > two I beam=20
> > > rails, with holes on the top surface for two location
=
> > > pin=20
> > > from the seat to drop into on both rails,</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>try a aviation scrap yard for these , if not
i
> =
> > > have =20
> > > a set of seat rails(in my old mans hanger) i could take some =
> > > measurements=20
> > > for you and some pics.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>this sounds like a similar principle to me =
> > > ..</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>regards</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>ben jones</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
> > >
> href=3D"mailto:bjones@pipecomp.com.au">bjones@pipecomp.com.au</A></FONT><=
> > > /DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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> > > <DIV=20
> > > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> > > black"><B>From:</B>=20
> > > <A title=3Dmgcollins@attbi.com =
> > > href=3D"mailto:mgcollins@attbi.com">Mark=20
> > > Collins</A> </DIV>
> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> > > title=3Dsimpits-tech@simpits.org=20
> > >
href=3D"mailto:simpits-tech@simpits.org">simpits-tech@simpits.org</A>
> =
> > > </DIV>
> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 11, 2003
=
> > > 11:49=20
> > > PM</DIV>
> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [simpits-tech] =
> > > Seat=20
> > > Adjustment</DIV>
> > > <DIV><BR></DIV>
> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D780384615-11032003><FONT face=3DArial =
> > > color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hey=20
> > > Ed...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D780384615-11032003><FONT face=3DArial =
> > > color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
> > > have a similar problem. My seat is an actual Eurcopter seat
for
> =
> > > a=20
> > > helicopter. This is in my helo pit. It is designed to =
> > > slide fore=20
> > > and aft on some type of rail system. It looks like it should =
> > > take some=20
> > > type of I-Beam. I have not been able to find anything for =
> > > this. =20
> > > I'll be stopping by my local "Pep Boys" auto parts store to see what
=
> > > they=20
> > > have. A friend was going to try and get some folks at work to
=
> > > fabricate=20
> > > something for me...but they are to busy. I'll let you know
what
> =
> > > I=20
> > > find!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D780384615-11032003><FONT face=3DArial =
> > > color=3D#0000ff=20
> > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D780384615-11032003><FONT face=3DArial =
> > > color=3D#0000ff=20
> > > size=3D2>Mark</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > > style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff
2px
> =
> > > solid">
> > > <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
> > > face=3DTahoma=20
> > > size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
> > > simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org =
> > > [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org]<B>On=20
> > > Behalf Of </B>Ed Henderson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 11, 2003
=
> > > 12:53=20
> > > AM<BR><B>To:</B> simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re:=20
> > > [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>All right... =
> > > I give=20
> > > in. I guess I am just a pessimist when it comes to my =
> > > construction...=20
> > > trying to save the wear and tear on my ACES II. I used
=
> > > the ACES=20
> > > plans from simpits using osb (before I knew the joy of working
with
> =
> > > mdf) and=20
> > > hardboard, I am sure it will hold up. The seat adjustment
was
> =
> > > also so=20
> > > that I could attach the seat to the floor and if the position was
=
> > > not=20
> > > exactly right a month down the road it could easily be
repositioned.
> =
> > > I=20
> > > feel that it needs to be secured to the floor cause it is a little
=
> > > aft top=20
> > > heavy and I know that my 10 year old will be using the headrest
for
> =
> > > a handle=20
> > > to get in and out.<BR><BR>BTW <SPAN
> class=3Dmoz-smiley-s1><SPAN>:-)=20
> > > </SPAN></SPAN> before anybody hits me with "the F/A-18
doesn't
> =
> > > use the=20
> > > ACES II" I could not find any plans for the NACES, and I was too =
> > > impatient=20
> > > to design it myself. I will however be starting on a NACES =
> > > replica=20
> > > when the cockpit is finished. <BR><BR>Ed<BR><BR>Keenan Akin
=
> > > wrote:<BR>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid3E6D4B7A.3040806@yhti.net =
> > > type=3D"cite">Ed,<BR><BR>Why=20
> > > are you concerned about stepping on the seat? That's how =
> > > everyone I=20
> > > know gets in and out of an F/A-18. Holding the windshield
=
> > > bow, right=20
> > > foot on the seat, left foot on the floor, right foot on the
floor,
> =
> > > sit=20
> > > down.<BR><BR>Keenan<BR>`<BR><BR>Ed Henderson wrote:<BR>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:3E6D2882.1020200@comcast.net =
> > > type=3D"cite">Yea I=20
> > > know, but I am trying to avoid stepping in and out on the seat
=
> > > so I=20
> > > wanted to have about 8 inches in front of the seat to step in
=
> > > and then=20
> > > slide forward. I was planning on a pedal adjustment as =
> > > well, but I=20
> > > have not thought about how to do that yet.<BR><BR>Gene Buckle
=
> > > wrote:<BR>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > > =
> > >
cite=3DmidPine.BSF.4.44.0303100709420.46693-100000@grumble.deltasoft.com
> =
> > >
> > > type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Ejection seats don't adjust like
=
> > > that Ed. :) You need to adjust the
> > > pedals instead. The only adjustment the seat can make is up-down with
> > > about a 5 or 6 inch range.
> > >
> > > g.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Ed Henderson wrote:
> > >
> > > </PRE>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Anybody have fore /
=
> > > aft seat adjustment ideas. I was thinking about
> > > drawer slides but they will not take the weight. Second option is 4
> > > casters in an aluminum trough and some type of locking mechanism...
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > >
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> > > Ed Henderson=09
> > > <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated =
> > > href=3D"mailto:aircop@comcast.net">aircop@comcast.net</A>
> > > Naples, Florida
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> > >
> > >
> > > -- __--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:26:51 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] F16 Canopy Frame
> > > From: Marv De Beque <mdebeque@woh.rr.com>
> > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >
> > > Yeah, thought about that and when a real frame came along I bought it.
> > >
> > > The canopy itself will make a good sound structure, but to lift it, I
> > would
> > > recommend steel or aluminum as a frame. Steel is nice since you can
> > easily
> > > weld it. Problem is, it is heavy and the canopy weighs too much as it
> is.
> > > Aluminum is hard to weld and expensive.
> > >
> > > An alternative would be to make one from carbon fiber. Carbon fiber
is
> > very
> > > light and extremely strong. Go to:
> > >
> > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/index.php
> > >
> > > They sell carbon fiber cloth and the resin needed to make what you
need.
> > > You can hand lay it easy enough, but you will need many layers. You
can
> > use
> > > cardboard as a starting frame and layer over that to build up the
frame.
> > > However, you may also want to consider using aluminum tubing as a core
> for
> > > additional strength.
> > >
> > > What ever you do it will most likely not be cheap.
> > >
> > > Marv
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/11/03 7:03 PM, "Jim K." <JimK@sisna.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > Say, has anyone out there tried to make a canopy frame for a F16
> pit???
> > > > I've got a trashed A model canopy and I'm thinking a frame for it
> would
> > be
> > > > cool. :-)
> > > > Jim
> > > >
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> > > Message: 7
> > > From: "Ben Jones" <bjones@pipecomp.com.au>
> > > To: <simpits-tech@simpits.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:31:43 +0800
> > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >
> > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > >
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> > >
> > > whell they did untill they dispanded the airforce to help pay for the
=
> > > retirement plans if many millions of sheep who are fast reaching the =
> > > golden age or retirement=20
> > > hehe
> > >
> > > ben
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > > From: L39driver@aol.com=20
> > > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 2:15 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment
> > >
> > >
> > > ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok sir my mistake I must admit I know very little
=
> > > of the A4 except I think the New Zealanders use it as a primary strike
=
> > > aircraft if I re call correctly=20
> > >
> > > Thumper
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> > > charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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> > > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>whell they did untill they dispanded the =
> > > airforce to=20
> > > help pay for the retirement plans if many millions of sheep who are
fast
> =
> > >
> > > reaching the golden age or retirement </FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>hehe</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>ben</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV> </DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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> > > BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> > > <DIV=20
> > > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> > > black"><B>From:</B>=20
> > > <A title=3DL39driver@aol.com=20
> > > href=3D"mailto:L39driver@aol.com">L39driver@aol.com</A> </DIV>
> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> > > title=3Dsimpits-tech@simpits.org=20
> > >
href=3D"mailto:simpits-tech@simpits.org">simpits-tech@simpits.org</A>
> =
> > > </DIV>
> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 12,
2003
> =
> > > 2:15=20
> > > AM</DIV>
> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [simpits-tech] =
> > > Seat=20
> > > Adjustment</DIV>
> > > <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
> > > face=3DArial size=3D2=20
> > > FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok sir my mistake I
must
> =
> > > admit I=20
> > > know very little of the A4 except I think the New Zealanders use it
as
> =
> > > a=20
> > > primary strike aircraft if I re call correctly
> <BR><BR>Thumper</FONT>=20
> > > </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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> > >
> > >
> > > -- __--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 8
> > > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:19:33 -0500
> > > From: Ed Henderson <aircop@comcast.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Seat Adjustment
> > > To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > > Reply-To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> > >
> > >
> > > --Boundary_(ID_SQckO+UkqovLg+QcM7YnHQ)
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> > >
> > > Roy, we share a hangar with Med Flight and they fly an EC-135. If you
> > > need any detail or layout pics let me know... I can get them any
time.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > Roy Coates wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Mark Collins wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Hey Ed...
> > > >>I have a similar problem. My seat is an actual Eurcopter seat for a
> > > >>helicopter. This is in my helo pit. It is designed to slide fore
and
> > aft
> > > >>on some type of rail system. It looks like it should take some type
> of
> > > >>I-Beam. I have not been able to find anything for this. I'll be
> > stopping
> > > >>by my local "Pep Boys" auto parts store to see what they have. A
> friend
> > was
> > > >>going to try and get some folks at work to fabricate something for
> > me...but
> > > >>they are to busy. I'll let you know what I find!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Hey Mark, got any pics of your pit? My generic helo pit is rapidly
> > > >following the EC135 eurocopter layout and I'm always looking for
ideas.
> > > >
> > > >Cheers,
> > > >
> > > >Roy.
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > ()
> > > ( )
> > > / \
> > > Ed Henderson
> > > aircop@comcast.net
> > > Naples, Florida
> > > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hangar
> > > ************************************
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> > > <body>
> > > Roy, we share a hangar with Med Flight and they fly an EC-135.
If
> > you need
> > > any detail or layout pics let me know... I can get them any
> > time.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Ed<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Roy Coates wrote:<br>
> > > <blockquote type="cite"
> > >
> cite="midPine.LNX.4.44.0303120113350.12625-100000@nix.mechnet.liv.ac.uk">
> > > <pre wrap="">On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Mark Collins wrote:
> > >
> > > </pre>
> > > <blockquote type="cite">
> > > <pre wrap="">Hey Ed...
> > > I have a similar problem. My seat is an actual Eurcopter seat for a
> > > helicopter. This is in my helo pit. It is designed to slide fore and
> aft
> > > on some type of rail system. It looks like it should take some type
of
> > > I-Beam. I have not been able to find anything for this. I'll be
> stopping
> > > by my local "Pep Boys" auto parts store to see what they have. A
friend
> > was
> > > going to try and get some folks at work to fabricate something for
> > me...but
> > > they are to busy. I'll let you know what I find!
> > >
> > > </pre>
> > > </blockquote>
> > > <pre wrap=""><!---->
> > > Hey Mark, got any pics of your pit? My generic helo pit is rapidly
> > > following the EC135 eurocopter layout and I'm always looking for
ideas.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Roy.
> > >
> > >
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> > > Ed Henderson
> > > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
> > href="mailto:aircop@comcast.net">aircop@comcast.net</a>
> > > Naples, Florida
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