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Re: [simpits-tech] Cougar's Spiking Pot!  LVDT Side Stick Prototype =
WORKS!Hi all,

I have to be honest. Its a little heart breaking when i saw the price of =
Marv's work. However, I can picture how much work there is. Marv might =
need to develop some sort of "Financial Plan" like Home loans type =
repayment plan so a few of us out there can apply for a "Joystick loan" =
:)

Anyway, if you ask me to drop the cash now to spend on this product. I =
will probably have a problem because I just came back from a fantastic =
holiday from Sydney to Perth. Two person I met during this trip are from =
this Simpit Egroup.
=20
First it was the Avalon Airshow, during my stay in Melbourne, I met up =
with Joe aka "Wombat". What a gentleman he was, we had such a great time =
getting into the F16 construction. Sitting inside his pit, more =
discussion over beer and dinner. We travelled to the airshow together on =
two of the days. I couldnt have ask for a better time in Melbourne.

By the time I got to Perth, I met up with another simpitter of this =
group, Ben Jones. Now that was an interesting experience. I thought this =
guy who knows so much about electronics to the point I have no idea what =
he's on about half the time on this group turns out to be my age?!?!?! =
ok... he's electrician by trade, I am a graphic designer. That's my =
excuse and I am sticking to that :)

I wont get into details in here. Save that for a feature story later on. =
However, I would sincerely thank Joe and Ben for their time to show me =
around their city, their cockpit project and lots of beer :)
=20
A trip that I wont forget, will have some photo for the website as soon =
as I get around to it. Here's are some digital photo I have put up the =
website for now www.shizznit.com/2003tour

My only regret on this trip was I didnt get a chance to meet up with =
Craig Wylie in Melbourne. I have tried call you but no go... if you read =
this email, please let me know what happened? Your personal email got =
bounced back to me when I write to u off the group.

On another note. Today I went into my local Jaycar electronic store. =
AURA interactor ... bass shaker... 10 AUD (5USD approx.) for the =
backpack, and 15 dollars (7.5USD approx.) for the cushion. That's =
everything include the amp, power supply and the bass shaker itself =
inside the cushion or backpack...  BRAND new. Still in the box.

Anyone intersted ? www.jaycar.com.au=20

Thanks Joe and Ben once again. Beers are on me when you come over to the =
east :)

Cheers,

Al
Sydney, Australia

P.S. good to be back... the Egroup that is... if I had a choice I would =
stayed in Melbourne instead :)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Joseph Fagner=20
  To: simpits-tech@simpits.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] Cougar's Spiking Pot! LVDT Side =
StickPrototype WORKS!

  $1500 is high, but nothing I've done so far is cheap.  Will you make =
it if I pay for it?  Not that I can pay for it at the moment, but if =
you'll make it, I'll save for it and get it.  Let me explain my =
rationale to others who may think I'm crazy.  What would the real thing =
cost?  A truck load more that $1500, right?  Marv, I presume you wired =
it into the cougar's innards as you had mentioned previously?  This =
alone is no small feat and well worth the ease it will be to maintain =
the cougar's programmability for me, the end user.  Now, consider the =
other mods it would take to get a Cougar to "feel" good without the dead =
spots at 12, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock.  There is a mod out there for about =
$475 that will do this.  Add in the HE sensors for the stick at $130 and =
you are now at $605.  But, you still have to mod the cougar somehow to =
make it useful and out of the way of the instruments and you still =
really won't have that realism.  I want maximum realism and I'm willing =
to pay for it.  If you think about it, some of us drop $3000 on a =
projector for the maximum visual realism, what would be the next thing =
in line?  My opinion would be the HOTAS since that is where your hands =
and thought will be a big chunk of time.  So, I don't think $1500 is an =
unreasonable amount to ask for all the time and effort you have placed =
into this.  So build away, I want one!  And damn, 1/1000 of a volt!  I =
can't even imagine how wonderful it feels.

  =20

  Jay=20

  =20

  -----Original Message-----
  From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org =
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Marv De Beque
  Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 5:12 AM
  To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
  Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Cougar's Spiking Pot! LVDT Side =
StickPrototype WORKS!

  =20

  Jay,

  Well I just got it working last night and it ROCKS!!!!

  However, don't get too excited.   The cost of this baby is way out of =
site (probably $1500).

  It is complex and the cost of the parts alone is $400, let alone the =
labor to build it.

  Still, the performance is out of this world.  This thing has a noise =
and jitter of under 1/1000 volt!  And that is on one of those bread =
boards.  Mechanically is feels great.  Recentering repeatability is =
about 1%.   Tastes great, too.  ;-)

  I just put the thread up at:

  =
http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=3D31723&goto=3D=
newpost

  Marv

  On 3/3/03 3:11 AM, "Joseph Fagner" <crease-guard@attbi.com> wrote:

  Sukit, I have the HE sensor on my stick (am currently awaiting the =
throttle mod as I am getting pot spikes in the throttle as well!).  I =
could go on and on about how great they are (they are worth the money, =
trust me).  GET THE MOD!!  My stick is as smooth as a baby's bottom and =
absolutely no spiking whatsoever.  The HE sensors Cub pilot uses are =
supposedly rated for 15,000,000 cycles (probably live longer that I =
will).  Don't waste your time or efforts on crappy pots that you will =
just have to change over and over again.  In the long run, the HE =
sensors will be cheaper and save you a lot of headaches.  Order both =
mods at once, as I have been waiting about 2-3 months for my throttle =
mod simply because Cub gets a ton of orders.  I have two cougars, one of =
which will be completely HE sensors with Ian Johnston's Uber cougar mod =
and the other I am planning on using with Marv's LVDT stick base when he =
gets it done.  I am going to have Cub add on a second HE sensor on my =
throttle mod when it's time for the throttle in my pit. Hope this helps.

  Jay

  -----Original Message-----
  From: simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org =
[mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Sittisudjatum, =
Sukit=20
  Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 1:26 AM
  To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
  Subject: [simpits-tech] Cougar's Spiking Pot!

  Considering the working hours I've been using it, the pots in my =
Cougar set shouldn't have a well-known "spiking" problem!  But it =
happened to the pot in my throttle last weekend.  I just noticed it when =
I can't get to the idle position when I flew a DC-3 in MSFS2002.  Then, =
I tested it in Foxy analyzer software, and accepted that there's a =
problem.

  I checked in the hardware section of the official cougar web pages, =
and saw that there's a Q&A about fixing the spiking pot!  Gezzz... this =
must happen to many cougar owners, so they have the Q&A listed.  I =
experienced fixing a spiking pot in my F-22 stick (FCLS+TQS) and it went =
well that time, so this shouldn't be a big deal with a small CTS pot.  =
But it's not, after deassemble the pot, clean out the dust, putting =
grease, and put them all in the positions.... there's still some =
noticable (and unacceptable) spiking !!!! (It was an unhappy weekend to =
me).  I thought I have to check the OEM web site, and see if I can buy =
.. may be 10 pots! as spare parts.

  I found the CTS web site, printed out the product catalog, and I even =
found that there's a distributor in Bangkok (a big surprise to me).  I =
suddenly called the distributor, a sale person was not very kind.  I was =
told that they have some samples for the customers, and the minimum =
order will be as lessas 10,000 pots!!!! Gosh, I need only 10.

FYI: The CTS web site is www.ctscorp.com <http://www.ctscorp.com> . =
You can download the pdf technical data from it's product section =
http://www.ctscorp.com/electro/251pot.htm=20

  Just a story of my "almost" dead pot to share with the community.  I =
would be so glad if anyone can tell the exact model of the pot.  My best =
guess would be 251B15F104B5N1

  If anyone here can find an electronic supply store where you can buy =
this model, please let me know.  Also, have anyone used the Cougar stick =
mod "Hall effect sensor" from a cubpilot?  It would be great if you can =
tell how do you like it.

  Sukit Sittisudjatum

  Bangkok, Thailand

  www.thaiflight.com <http://www.thaiflight.com>=20

  =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have to be honest. Its a little heart =
breaking=20
when i saw the price of Marv's work. However, I can picture how much =
work there=20
is.&nbsp;Marv might need to develop some sort of "Financial Plan" like =
Home=20
loans type repayment plan so a few of us out there can apply for a =
"Joystick=20
loan" :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway, if you ask me to drop the cash =
now to spend=20
on this product. I will probably have a problem because I just came back =
from a=20
fantastic holiday from Sydney to Perth. Two person I met during this =
trip are=20
from this Simpit Egroup.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First it was the Avalon Airshow, during =
my stay in=20
Melbourne, I met up with Joe aka "Wombat". What a gentleman he was, we =
had such=20
a great time getting into the F16 construction. Sitting inside his pit, =
more=20
discussion over beer and dinner. We travelled to the airshow together on =
two of=20
the days. I couldnt have ask for a better time in =
Melbourne.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By the time I got to Perth, I met up =
with another=20
simpitter of this group, Ben Jones. Now that was an interesting =
experience. I=20
thought this guy who knows so much about electronics to the point I have =
no idea=20
what he's on about half the time on this group turns out to be my =
age?!?!?!=20
ok... he's electrician by trade, I am a graphic designer. That's my =
excuse and I=20
am sticking to that :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I&nbsp;wont get into details&nbsp;in =
here. Save=20
that for a&nbsp;feature story later on. However, I would sincerely thank =
Joe and=20
Ben for their time&nbsp;to show me around their city, their cockpit =
project and=20
lots of beer :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A trip that I wont forget, will have =
some photo=20
for&nbsp;the website as soon as I get around to it. Here's are some =
digital=20
photo I have put up the website for now <A=20
href=3D"http://www.shizznit.com/2003tour">www.shizznit.com/2003tour</A></=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My only regret on this trip was I didnt =
get a=20
chance to meet up with Craig Wylie in Melbourne. I have tried call you =
but no=20
go... if you read this email, please let me know what happened? Your =
personal=20
email got bounced back to me when I write to u off the =
group.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On another note. Today I went into my =
local=20
Jaycar&nbsp;electronic store. AURA&nbsp;interactor ... bass =
shaker...&nbsp;10=20
AUD (5USD approx.) for the backpack, and 15 dollars&nbsp;(7.5USD =
approx.) for=20
the cushion. That's everything include the amp, power supply and the =
bass shaker=20
itself inside the cushion or backpack...</FONT>&nbsp;&nbsp;BRAND new. =
Still in=20
the box.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Anyone intersted ? <A=20
href=3D"http://www.jaycar.com.au">www.jaycar.com.au</A> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks Joe and Ben once again. Beers are on me when =
you come=20
over to the east :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=3D2>Al</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sydney, Australia</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>P.S. good to be back... the Egroup that is... if I =
had a=20
choice I would stayed in Melbourne instead :)</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:crease-guard@attbi.com" =
title=3Dcrease-guard@attbi.com>Joseph=20
  Fagner</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:simpits-tech@simpits.org"=20
  title=3Dsimpits-tech@simpits.org>simpits-tech@simpits.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 04, 2003 =
2:48=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [simpits-tech] =
Cougar's=20
  Spiking Pot! LVDT Side StickPrototype WORKS!</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">$1500 is =
high, but=20
  nothing I&#8217;ve done so far is cheap.&nbsp; Will you make it if I =
pay for=20
  it?&nbsp; Not that I can pay for it at the moment, but if you&#8217;ll =
make it, I&#8217;ll=20
  save for it and get it.&nbsp; Let me explain my rationale to others =
who may=20
  think I&#8217;m crazy.&nbsp; What would the real thing cost?&nbsp; A =
truck load more=20
  that $1500, right?&nbsp; Marv, I presume you wired it into the =
cougar&#8217;s=20
  innards as you had mentioned previously?&nbsp; This alone is no small =
feat and=20
  well worth the ease it will be to maintain the cougar&#8217;s =
programmability for=20
  me, the end user.&nbsp; Now, consider the other mods it would take to =
get a=20
  Cougar to &#8220;feel&#8221; good without the dead spots at 12, 3, 6 =
and=20
  </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">9=20
  o&#8217;clock</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">.&nbsp; =
There is a=20
  mod out there for about $475 that will do this.&nbsp; Add in the HE =
sensors=20
  for the stick at $130 and you are now at $605.&nbsp; But, you still =
have to=20
  mod the cougar somehow to make it useful and out of the way of the =
instruments=20
  and you still really won&#8217;t have that realism.&nbsp; I want =
maximum realism and=20
  I&#8217;m willing to pay for it.&nbsp; If you think about it, some of =
us drop $3000=20
  on a projector for the maximum visual realism, what would be the next =
thing in=20
  line?&nbsp; My opinion would be the HOTAS since that is where your =
hands and=20
  thought will be a big chunk of time.&nbsp; So, I don&#8217;t think =
$1500 is an=20
  unreasonable amount to ask for all the time and effort you have placed =
into=20
  this.&nbsp; So build away, I want one!&nbsp; And damn, 1/1000 of a =
volt!=20
  &nbsp;I can&#8217;t even imagine how wonderful it =
feels.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Jay</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> =
</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
  simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] =

On Behalf Of Marv De=20
 Beque Sent: Monday, =
March 03,=20
 2003 5:12 AM To:=20
 simpits-tech@simpits.org <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] =
Cougar's=20
 Spiking Pot! LVDT Side StickPrototype WORKS!
 &nbsp;
 <FONT=20
 face=3DVerdana size=3D3><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jay, Well I =
just got it=20
 working last night and it ROCKS!!!! However, don&#8217;t get =
too excited.=20
 &nbsp;&nbsp;The cost of this baby is way out of site (probably=20
 $1500). It is complex and the cost of the parts alone is $400, =
let=20
 alone the labor to build it. Still, the performance is out of =
this=20
 world. &nbsp;This thing has a noise and jitter of under 1/1000 volt! =
&nbsp;And=20
 that is on one of those bread boards. &nbsp;Mechanically is feels =
great.=20
 &nbsp;Recentering repeatability is about 1%. &nbsp;&nbsp;Tastes great, =
too.=20
 &nbsp;;-) I just put the thread up=20
 at: <TT><SPAN=20
 style=3D"COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=3D31723&=
amp;goto=3Dnewpost</TT><FONT=20
 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"> <FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <TT><FONT=20
 face=3D"Courier New">Marv</TT> <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> On 3/3/03 3:11 AM, "Joseph =
Fagner"=20
 &lt;crease-guard@attbi.com&gt; wrote:
 <FONT=20
 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sukit, I =
have the HE=20
 sensor on my stick (am currently awaiting the throttle mod as I am =
getting pot=20
 spikes in the throttle as well!). &nbsp;I could go on and on about how =
great=20
 they are (they are worth the money, trust me). &nbsp;GET THE MOD!! =
&nbsp;My=20
 stick is as smooth as a baby&#8217;s bottom and absolutely no spiking =
whatsoever.=20
 &nbsp;The HE sensors Cub pilot uses are supposedly rated for =
15,000,000 cycles=20
 (probably live longer that I will). &nbsp;Don&#8217;t waste your time =
or efforts on=20
 crappy pots that you will just have to change over and over again. =
&nbsp;In=20
 the long run, the HE sensors will be cheaper and save you a lot of =
headaches.=20
 &nbsp;Order both mods at once, as I have been waiting about 2-3 months =
for my=20
 throttle mod simply because Cub gets a ton of orders. &nbsp;I have two =

cougars, one of which will be completely HE sensors with Ian =
Johnston&#8217;s Uber=20
 cougar mod and the other I am planning on using with Marv&#8217;s LVDT =
stick base=20
 when he gets it done. &nbsp;I am going to have Cub add on a second HE =
sensor=20
 on my throttle mod when it&#8217;s time for the throttle in my pit. =
Hope this=20
 helps. <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <SPAN=20
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10pt"> <FONT=20
 face=3DVerdana> <FONT=20
 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Jay <FONT=20
 face=3DVerdana> <FONT=20
 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"> <FONT=20
 face=3DVerdana> <FONT=20
 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original=20
 Message----- From:=20
 simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org [mailto:simpits-tech-admin@simpits.org] =

On Behalf Of =
Sittisudjatum,=20
 Sukit Sent: =
Monday, March=20
 03, 2003 1:26 AM To:=20
 simpits-tech@simpits.org <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: [simpits-tech] =
Cougar's Spiking=20
 Pot! <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Considering the working =
hours I've=20
 been using it, the pots in my Cougar set shouldn't have a well-known =
"spiking"=20
 problem! &nbsp;But it happened to the pot in my throttle last weekend. =
&nbsp;I=20
 just noticed it when I can't get to the idle position when I flew a =
DC-3 in=20
 MSFS2002. &nbsp;Then, I tested it in Foxy analyzer software, and =
accepted that=20
 there's a problem. <SPAN=20
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 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I checked in the =
hardware=20
 section of the official cougar web pages, and saw that there's a =
Q&amp;A about=20
 fixing the spiking pot! &nbsp;Gezzz... this must happen to many cougar =
owners,=20
 so they have the Q&amp;A listed. &nbsp;I experienced fixing a spiking =
pot in=20
 my F-22 stick (FCLS+TQS) and it went well that time, so this shouldn't =
be a=20
 big deal with a small CTS pot. &nbsp;But it's not, after deassemble =
the pot,=20
 clean out the dust, putting grease, and put them all in the =
positions....=20
 there's still some noticable (and unacceptable) spiking !!!! (It was =
an=20
 unhappy weekend to me). &nbsp;I thought I have to check the OEM web =
site, and=20
 see if I can buy .. may be 10 pots! as spare =
parts. <FONT=20
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 face=3DVerdana> <FONT=20
 face=3DArial size=3D2>I found=20
 the CTS web site, printed out the product catalog, and I even found =
that=20
 there's a distributor in Bangkok (a big surprise to me). &nbsp;I =
suddenly=20
 called the distributor, a sale person was not very kind. &nbsp;I was =
told that=20
 they have some samples for the customers, and the minimum order will =
be as=20
 lessas 10,000 pots!!!! Gosh, I need only 10. <FONT=20
 face=3DVerdana> <FONT=20
 face=3DVerdana> <FONT=20
 face=3DArial size=3D2>FYI: The=20
 CTS web site is www.ctscorp.com &lt;http://www.ctscorp.com&gt; . =
&nbsp;You can=20
 download the pdf technical data from it's product section=20
 http://www.ctscorp.com/electro/251pot.htm <FONT=20
 face=3DVerdana> <FONT=20
 face=3DVerdana> <FONT=20
 face=3DArial size=3D2>Just a=20
 story of my "almost" dead pot to share with the community. &nbsp;I =
would be so=20
 glad if anyone can tell the exact model of the pot. &nbsp;My best =
guess would=20
 be 251B15F104B5N1 <SPAN=20
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 face=3DArial size=3D2>If anyone=20
 here can find an electronic supply store where you can buy this model, =
please=20
 let me know. &nbsp;Also, have anyone used the Cougar stick mod "Hall =
effect=20
 sensor" from a cubpilot? &nbsp;It would be great if you can tell how =
do you=20
 like it. <SPAN=20
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 Sittisudjatum <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> Bangkok,=20
 Thailand <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">www.thaiflight.com=20
 &lt;http://www.thaiflight.com&gt; <SPAN=20
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