[simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick driver

Sittisudjatum, Sukit simpits-tech@simpits.org
Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:13:30 +0700


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Thomas,
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Thanks for the update.  I also ran a quick test last night!  Open the =
FSUIPC window and select the button tab, then I found the features like =
"program on the run" ... I depressed a button on my Sidewinder Force =
Feedback, followed by depressing a key (or multi key like Ctrl+P,etc), =
then I got the key worked :)  I was not sure, but I thought instead of =
having 16 commands by pressing a shift key on the stick base, we got =
only half of it.  That was enough for me to live with this MS stick for =
a while.
=20
However, I didn't sure why the FSUIPC window is divided into 2 sides for =
this key programming ...still need to read more.
Sukit Sittisudjatum
Founder, Thai Flight Simulator=20
www.thaiflight.com=20
Bangkok, Thailand=20

-----Original Message-----
From: H=F6ltschi Thomas [mailto:thomas.hoeltschi@siemens.com]
Sent: 23 June 2003 4:47 PM
To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org'
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick driver



Sukit,
=20
I tried to test it this weekend. Unfortunately the gameport at my new =
computer does not support MIDI and hence the stick does not work.
Sorry for the bad news. Probabely someone else on the list could do the =
test.
=20
Thomas

-----Original Message-----
From: H=F6ltschi Thomas [mailto:thomas.hoeltschi@siemens.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2003 10:11
To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org'
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick driver


Sukit,
=20
I am not sure, I have to test it.
=20
Thomas

-----Original Message-----
From: Sittisudjatum, Sukit [mailto:SukitS@state.gov]
Sent: Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2003 09:17
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick driver


Thomas,
=20
Can we get all the buttons programmed using FSUIPC?  So far, it's good =
that the force feedback is functional under FS2002 :)

Sukit Sittisudjatum
Engineer, GSO/Facilities Management
US Embassy Bangkok
Tel: 0-2205-5332
Fax: 0-2254-2832
email: sukits@state.gov=20

This e-mail is UNCLASSIFIED based on E.O. 12958 definitions.=20

-----Original Message-----
From: H=F6ltschi Thomas [mailto:thomas.hoeltschi@siemens.com]
Sent: 19 June 2003 2:05 PM
To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org'
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick driver


Sukit,
=20
I used the FF stick on MS W2k. It work like a joystick, but you can't =
program any FF features.
Thomas
----------------------------=20
Thomas Hoeltschi=20
Volketswil, Switzerland=20

See my project at=20
http://www.flightsimulation.ch <http://www.flightsimulation.ch/> =20


-----Original Message-----
From: Sittisudjatum, Sukit [mailto:SukitS@state.gov]
Sent: Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2003 08:27
To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick driver


Justin,
=20
What version of Windows you're running?  I use XP, and I have my MS =
Force Feedback 1 hook to it without the driver... So far, the reactions =
I got when fly MSFS2002 is as good as it can give.  It seems like the XP =
knows what the MS Force Feedback is.  Anyway, I haven't tried to program =
the buttons yet, and I may need to find the correct driver.

Sukit Sittisudjatum
Founder, Thai Flight Simulator
Bangkok, Thailand

-----Original Message-----
From: H=F6ltschi Thomas [mailto:thomas.hoeltschi@siemens.com]
Sent: 19 June 2003 1:17 PM
To: 'simpits-tech@simpits.org'
Subject: RE: [simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick driver


Justin,
=20
As far as I know they abandoned the stick and its further development. I =
got the old CD back home (for I think Win98, not sure).
I can see what's on there.
=20
Thomas
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Messenger [mailto:jjmessenger@yahoo.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2003 02:27
To: Simpits-tech@simpits.org
Subject: [simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick driver


I cannot find a microsoft force feedback 1 stick driver online, any =
pointers?
=20
Justin



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size=3D2>Thomas,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D567390500-24062003><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D567390500-24062003><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Thanks for the update.&nbsp; I also ran a quick test&nbsp;last=20
night!&nbsp; Open the FSUIPC window and select the button tab, then I =
found the=20
features like "program on the run" ... I depressed a button on my =
Sidewinder=20
Force Feedback, followed by depressing a key (or multi key like =
Ctrl+P,etc),=20
then I got&nbsp;the key&nbsp;worked :)&nbsp; I was not sure, but I =
thought=20
instead of having 16 commands by pressing a shift key on the stick base, =
we got=20
only half of it.&nbsp; That was enough for me to live with this MS stick =
for a=20
while.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D567390500-24062003><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D567390500-24062003><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>However, I didn't sure why the FSUIPC window is divided into 2 =
sides for=20
this key programming ...still need to read =
more.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><B><FONT=20
face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#000080 size=3D2>
<P><B><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Sukit=20
Sittisudjatum</FONT></B><BR><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D1>Founder, Thai Flight Simulator</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3D"Trebuchet MS"=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D1>www.thaiflight.com</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3D"Trebuchet MS"=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D1>Bangkok, Thailand</FONT> </P>
<P></FONT></B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> H=F6ltschi Thomas=20
[mailto:thomas.hoeltschi@siemens.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 23 June 2003 4:47=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'simpits-tech@simpits.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
[simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick =
driver<BR><BR></FONT></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D231454409-23062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Sukit,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D231454409-23062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D231454409-23062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
  tried to test it this weekend. Unfortunately the gameport at my new =
computer=20
  does not support MIDI and hence the stick does not =
work.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D231454409-23062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Sorry for the bad news. Probabely someone else on the list =
could do the=20
  test.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D231454409-23062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D231454409-23062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Thomas</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> H=F6ltschi =
Thomas=20
    [mailto:thomas.hoeltschi@siemens.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Donnerstag, =
19. Juni=20
    2003 10:11<BR><B>To:</B> =
'simpits-tech@simpits.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
    [simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick =
driver<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D171461008-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Sukit,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D171461008-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D171461008-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
    am not sure, I have to test it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D171461008-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D171461008-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Thomas</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Sittisudjatum, =
Sukit=20
      [mailto:SukitS@state.gov]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Donnerstag, 19. Juni =
2003=20
      09:17<BR><B>To:</B> simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
RE:=20
      [simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick=20
driver<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D046251407-19062003><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS"=20
      color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Thomas,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D046251407-19062003><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS"=20
      color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D046251407-19062003><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS"=20
      color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Can we get&nbsp;all the buttons =
programmed using=20
      FSUIPC?&nbsp; So far, it's good that the force feedback is =
functional=20
      under FS2002 :)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <P><B><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Sukit=20
      Sittisudjatum</FONT></B><BR><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D1>Engineer, GSO/Facilities Management<BR>US Embassy =
Bangkok<BR>Tel:=20
      0-2205-5332<BR>Fax: 0-2254-2832<BR>email: =
sukits@state.gov</FONT><FONT=20
      face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D1></FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#0000ff size=3D1>This =
e-mail=20
      is</FONT><B><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D1><U> =
</U></FONT><U><FONT=20
      face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#ff0000 =
size=3D1>UNCLASSIFIED</FONT></U></B><FONT=20
      face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D1> </FONT><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D1>based on E.O.</FONT><B><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" =
size=3D1>=20
      </FONT><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D1>12958</FONT></B><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D1> =
</FONT><FONT=20
      face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#0000ff size=3D1>definitions.</FONT> =
</P>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
        size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> H=F6ltschi =
Thomas=20
        [mailto:thomas.hoeltschi@siemens.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 19 June =
2003 2:05=20
        PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'simpits-tech@simpits.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
RE:=20
        [simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick=20
        driver<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D889190407-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>Sukit,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D889190407-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D889190407-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>I used the FF stick on MS W2k. It work like a joystick, =
but you=20
        can't program any FF features.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D889190407-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>Thomas</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D889190407-19062003>
        <P><B><FONT size=3D2>----------------------------</FONT></B> =
<BR><B><FONT=20
        size=3D2>Thomas Hoeltschi</FONT></B> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>Volketswil,=20
        Switzerland</FONT> </P>
        <P><FONT size=3D2>See my project at</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><A =

        target=3D_blank=20
        =
href=3D"http://www.flightsimulation.ch/">http://www.flightsimulation.ch</=
A></FONT>=20
        </P><BR></SPAN></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
          size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
Sittisudjatum, Sukit=20
          [mailto:SukitS@state.gov]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Donnerstag, 19. Juni =
2003=20
          08:27<BR><B>To:</B> =
simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
          [simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick=20
          driver<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          class=3D493112206-19062003>Justin,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          class=3D493112206-19062003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          class=3D493112206-19062003>What version of Windows you're =
running?&nbsp;=20
          I use XP, and I have my MS Force Feedback 1 hook to it without =
the=20
          driver... So far, the&nbsp;reactions I got&nbsp;when =
fly&nbsp;MSFS2002=20
          is as good as it can give.&nbsp; It seems like the XP knows =
what the=20
          MS Force Feedback is.&nbsp; Anyway, I haven't tried to program =
the=20
          buttons yet, and I may need to find the correct=20
          driver.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><B><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#000080 =
size=3D2><BR>Sukit=20
          Sittisudjatum</FONT></B><BR><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" =
color=3D#0000ff=20
          size=3D2><SPAN class=3D493112206-19062003>Founder, Thai Flight =

          Simulator<BR>Bangkok, Thailand</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
          <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
            <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
            size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
H=F6ltschi Thomas=20
            [mailto:thomas.hoeltschi@siemens.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 19 =
June 2003=20
            1:17 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
'simpits-tech@simpits.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
            RE: [simpits-tech] microsoft force feedback 1 stick=20
            driver<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D072061506-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
            size=3D2>Justin,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D072061506-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
            size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D072061506-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
            size=3D2>As far as I know they abandoned the stick and its =
further=20
            development. I got the old CD back home (for I think Win98, =
not=20
            sure).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D072061506-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
            size=3D2>I can see what's on there.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D072061506-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
            size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D072061506-19062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
            size=3D2>Thomas</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D072061506-19062003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <BLOCKQUOTE>
              <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
              face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
              Justin Messenger =
[mailto:jjmessenger@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
              Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2003 02:27<BR><B>To:</B>=20
              Simpits-tech@simpits.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [simpits-tech] =

              microsoft force feedback 1 stick =
driver<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
              <DIV>I cannot find a microsoft force feedback 1 stick =
driver=20
              online, any pointers?</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>Justin</DIV>
              <P>
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