GB> Are you referring to Amarillo USAF? Hi, Gene! No, Amarillo is free for download (already got it). What I'm looking for is this: http://www.tlai.com/med_des/mdsta.html I already found GlaseSteD, which is nearly the same - but just nearly. (the C and G are too round, e.g.) greetings michi ******************** The Multipit www.f16simulator.net ********************